What defines a race traitor?
Someone like Clarence Thomas, who puts his political agenda before the needs of the black masses?
Someone like Michael Jackson, who was associated with bleached skin for most of his adulthood and who was a devoted father to children who "looked" white?
Someone like Diana Ross, who has been associated with wealthy and well-connected white men for most of her adult life?
Someone like Nelly, who brazenly promotes the black whore complex to adolescents?
Someone like Flavor Flav, who decided that his reality show would depict the most classless black women who could be found?
Someone like Tracy Morrow (Ice T), who upholds slutty white women as idols for black male fantasies?
Is a race traitor a person whose actions create a detrimental impact on the mobility or credibility of black people as a whole?
It is important that black women examine all of the ways that they try to maintain acceptance in black constructs and accept accountability for the criteria that they internalize in order to avoid social ostracism among blacks.
A week or so ago, I was visiting Wayne's blog and he had a post about Clarence Thomas, "The Most Dangerous Negro In America". As expected, many black bloggers gleefully joined the lynchmob to start spewing insults about Clarence Thomas.
One reason why black people waste so much of their emotional energy spewing rants and insults about public figures who don't demonstrate any loyalty to the black collective is because these blacks "think" that they are owed something from black public figures. Their anger and scoffing is rooted in their unexamined entitlement mentality.
Black people in power don't have to do anything to help "black" causes.
Black people in power don't have to care about strengthening the black family.
Black people in power don't have to be crusaders for the black lower class tier.
Black people in power don't have to be protectors of the black middle class.
Black people in power don't have to care about your priorities or the priorities of the black collective.
Black people in power don't have to do anything with their power that advances the black collective. They can acquire power and choose not to share it.
Since they don't have to do these things, their choice not to do those things does not qualify them as an enemy of black people.
I have heard black people say, "well if they benefited from the black vote then they owe us!" These delusions would be comical if they were not so widely accepted.
If black officials are elected by black majority vote, they still don't owe anything to the black masses - unless those masses have a system in place to enforce the demands that they identified prior to the election. Usually, they don't! I mentioned in my post, "The Glitter of Counterfeit Loyalties" that black people were willing to toss their support to Obama when Obama had made specific promises to other segments - but had not made any specific promises to blacks.
Frederick Douglass warned us that: "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never has and it never will."
We weren't listening.
Many black women tend to create an emotional contract with black women in power.
Many black people tend to create an emotional contract with black people in power.
It's essentially a worthless and unenforced contract because black people in power don't have to adhere to the contracts that black people validate by clinging to entitlement mentalities.
The contract is formulated based on their own assumptions about what black people in power have to do. Scores of black people formulated a one-sided contract in their minds about what Condi Rice was supposed to do in her lofty position as Secretary of State. They have the terms laid out for what Clarence Thomas was supposed to do as Justice.
The problem with these delusions that they attempt to justify is that they are based on assumptions about the existence of black unity (that has been dead and buried). These delusions are based on unwarranted expectations. I've encountered so many black people who hoist their expectations on other blacks without any dominance strategy in place.
The new math for black women ought to be:
Blanket Expectations - Effective Dominance Strategy = Delusional Assumptions
Don't we realize that the black masses have no power at all to enforce these one-sided contracts with black public officials who do not acquire their positions by popular vote?
Even black public officials who acquire their positions by popular vote are not beholden to the black electorate - unless the black electorate is the voting sector that can ensure victory or defeat. Usually, the black electorate is not the crucial voting sector. Black people are no longer the largest minority group in this country so when politicians are eager to gain the "minority" vote, they are not thinking of gaining favor with any specific racial group anymore. They are thinking of gaining favor with specific ethnic groups. Ethnic groups are now the "new" powerful minority in this country.
This transition in political currency occurred while black people stood by watching the embers of black unity turn to smoke.
How do we qualify race traitors?
In all-black constructs, black women were "programmed" to place the needs of the black collective above their individual needs, above their individual priorities, above their gender, and above their common sense. Black women who did not protect and defend black men as a group (even if those black men were not protecting or defending them) were viewed as race traitors among the "race women".
Black women who refused to be the burden-carriers in the black community were viewed as race traitors among the "race women".
I continue to encounter scores of black women who are deeply afraid of ostracism in black constructs. (I use the term "constructs" because most black women who are currently in black constructs tend to use the word "black community" to describe the construct that they are identifying with and the construct that they are a part of. They are using the term "community" where it doesn't apply. "Community" is not where half of black women and black girls are being raped. "Community" is not where black women are being regularly mentally and emtionally assaulted. "Community" is not where black women are forced to fend for themselves while being exploited by others. The Jews didn't call the Nazi concentration camps "Jewish communities". They knew that they were being subjugated. They knew that they were under seige. They knew that their lives were in danger every day. They didn't delusionally call it a "community". Black women can learn something from the Jews who were captive about the necessity of naming things what they are.)
I mentioned in my post, "Sistas Confronting Xenophobic and Arrhenphobic Lives" that black women who refused to stay in all-black constructs for their entire lives and who decided to forge alliances and key relationships with non-blacks were viewed with suspicion and scorn. They faced numerous speculations from "race women" and they faced taunts from black men who demanded that black women "stay in their place". ("Their place" was in an emotional state where they were beholden to elevating the interests of black men as a group and beholden to seeking the validation of black men as a group.)
When I mentioned "Our Boundaries, Our Liberation and Our Elevation", I outlined the steps that are needed for black women to begin to take control of the climate of attack that they have permitted for entirely too long. The comment section was sparse because most black women are not ready to take concrete steps to actually address the attacks; they are stuck in the mindset of victims. In most cases, victims only whine and rant about the attacks against them; they have no plan in place to alter the equation that they are living with. This forum strives to outline action steps for black women.
I continue to mention the necessity of dominance strategy implementation in various discussions at this think tank.
I continue to insist that black women analyze their identification of collective power, their leverage of collective power and their wanton abuses of individual power that impede collective progress.
It is vitally important for black women to understand how their deep fear of having the "race traitor" label hurled at them has kept them from seeking self-actualization.
Who qualifies as "race traitor"?
1. Clarence Thomas was labeled a "race traitor" because he married a white woman. Anyone who marries outside of the race has their blackness credibility questioned by those blacks who were "programmed" to believe that race should become the main factor for deciding who to marry.
2. Clarence Thomas was labeled a "race traitor" because he held views that many blacks didn't agree with. Anyone who does not validate BlackThinkTM is suspected of deliberately seeking to forge alliances with factions that are anti-black. I described this mentality in the post, "Examining The De-Black Tactic". The assumption is that black people must adopt group think in order to prove their solidarity to black people.
3. Diana Ross was labeled a "race traitor" because she grew up in all-black constructs - in Brewster Place Projects - and she never came back to all-black constructs. She became comfortable in a global arena. She became class-mobile in international settings. She didn't apologize for not adhering to all of the black ideologies that had been part of her early "programming". She married wealthy white men. She had children with wealthy white men. This caused her to become suspected of rejecting her blackness.
4. Michael Jackson was labeled a "race traitor" because he was bleaching his skin and had not called a press conference to inform black people that he had vitiligo. All black people who have seen the impact of vitiligo on anyone's face know that it is a skin disorder that is extremely unattractive. Many people with vitiligo carry an umbrella to avoid exposure to the sun. There are still black people who are debating whether or not Michael had vitiligo - in spite of the fact that nearly all of us have seen blacks who have the disorder. It is estimated that up to five million people in this country may have it.
Michael's children look white. There is speculation about whether he fathered his own children. Black people aren't allowed to have any children that aren't black? Black people aren't allowed to become parents to children that are not biologically theirs? Angelina Jolie, Madonna, Mia Farrow can choose non-white children but blacks (especially black celebrities!) can only choose black children?
5. Condi Rice was labeled a "race traitor" because she forged powerful alliances with white men who had no interests in elevating the black community. Condi is a dominance theory expert who utilized strategies to leverage her individual power that black women had not seen before. Whenever we see another black person operating with strategies that we are ignorant about, we usually resort to shaming, ridiculing and scoffing. Those reactions attempt to camouflage ignorance. It's too easy to sit back and bash ideologies that you have never been exposed to and much harder to confront your own mentality.
I am not surprised by Condi's power leveraging strategies because I understand dominance theory. Her strategy has nothing to do with proving black unity. In this country, proving black unity to the black race has not benefited black women as a whole.
Angela Davis was loyal to black concerns and personified the Black Power movement. Angela was not protected by the black collective. She may be deified as a bold revolutionary today, now that she's in her 60s, but she faced vicious and persistent opposition from the majority of blacks when she was in her 20s. She was viewed as a trouble-maker.
King was deified in his death but his actions were being loudly opposed by the majority of blacks. Anyone who was alive when King gained prominence can attest to the suspicions that were leveled against him by status-quo blacks who were terrified of blacks who could potentially upset the apple cart. They weren't focused on the benefits of revolution - they were intimidated by the retaliation that revolution would produce.
This is why blacks who internalized slave thinking were deeply afraid of those blacks who spoke out against racism. They believed that those blacks would create retaliation for all black people. In slavery, the rule-breaking of one slave could result in harsh punishments for all of the slaves. This punish-all-for-one method of entrapment is precisely how the white slave owner ensured that blacks would "police" each other.
This slave conditioning is evident with scores of blacks who loudly lambast any black who doesn't adhere to the "one-drop" rule. Blacks don't know how why "one-drop" rule was important to white slave owners. It ensured that they could black slaves (who were blood relatives) the legal right to claim any of their property.
"You can't claim any part of your ancestry except your African blood line!" they insist. "If you are one-drop black then you are black!" they scoff. There are scores of black people who are still attempting to enforce the "one-drop" rule in black constructs - while remaining completely ignorant of that rule's origins and motives.
Black women who want to prove their solidarity to the race usually make decisions that benefit black male patriarchy or reinforce the dysfunctional model of the "strong black woman" or the "grave digger".
If we examine the characteristics of a "race traitor" in black constructs, we will see that those are the characteristics required for divestment.
- A willingness to place self-interests above group advancement
- A willingness to reject BlackThinkTM
- An ability to separate one's ideologies from the "black interests" umbrella
- A desire to serve the interests of non-black factions that provide tangible returns on the investment
- An ability to foster a self-definition that is not centered on racial loyalty
- An ability to establish manufactured dependencies within non-black constructs
- A willingness to develop alliances that are not based on racial similiarity
Any terms that are bandied about in all-black constructs that are intended to keep black women focused on black solidarity while they are not reaping any benefits of their racial loyalty, should be examined closely. We are so used to hearing certain terms, that we don't bother to ask ourselves about who benefits in black constructs from upholding the criteria that is attached to those terms.
If we are going to discuss the power base of black women at this forum, then we need to be willing to examine the ways that we concede our power. One way that we concede our power collectively is by elevating terminology that has been used to subjugate us and to keep us in ideological cages of racial conformity.
When black women hear terms such as "race traitor", we need to step back and ask ourselves, "What does that term mean in the construct that I am in? What is the price that I have accepted to avoid that label in the construct that I am in?"
Are you willing to be labeled a "race traitor" (among all of the slave-indoctrinated blacks) in order to become self-actualized?
I am.
Saturday, July 11, 2009
ENTERING THE MIND OF A RACE TRAITOR
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This is too funny because about two hours ago I was "debating" with a woman who said that Michael had black self-hatred and things of that nature and should have put most his money into the black community instead of course as we all know spread it around the world. I told her Michael didnt have to do a thing. he could kept his millions all to himself i mean after all he made it so why should we tell him what to do with his money. Anyways though i have not been called a race-traitor i have been told im not a typical black girl because of the gothic influences i had and still do. Did i care yes at first but when i got older and started being around people who were like me and shared my interest I've been so happy and freely express myself and not trying to hide what I am. I mean I was terrible I would try to hide my rock cds behing my r&b ones because i knew someone would ask to look at them in my cd case. i dont do that anymore and say love it like it or leave me just dont bother me about it. I do what is going to benefit me and make me happy and not worry about everybody else. Thanks for this post and forgive me of any errors im on my on my smart phone. Blessings.
Dear Lisa,
First, I must offer you an apology. I copied your blogpost of "Misuse of Reproductive power" (with the source link of course) without first asking for your permission. I am sorry for that. The post was so powerful and the board that I posted it, tends to have young AAW that I felt it was so important to put it out there for them to consider the implication of their reproductive choices.
I hope that your are not angry and I promise to ask before doing such a thing again.
To this post, I definitely fit the definition of a race traitor under a black construct. I do what benefits me.
Long ago, I attended a University that was predominately black and saw first-hand this entitlement mentality (I grew up in the white suburbs and thought I needed to be exposed to "my people" lol). Four years later, I had had enough and never was in such an black construct again.
This post is so on-point on so many levels as I read some of the remarks about Michael Jackson. I am forever amazed and the responses. Some even going so far as to be angry that Katherine may no longer the executor. Excuse me, but she was not involved in his financial empire and the men that have been named were also involved in its further expansion. Just plain common sense in my book. However, in the black construct, common sense is not so common.
Welcome Raina!
Thanks for starting off this discussion!
It is important for us to talk about the power of black women by discussing the ways that we are allowing ideologies that are validated in black constructs to shape our existence.
Peace, blesings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
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Welcome Karen!
I appreciate your confession.
I do NOT appreciate your disrespect for the rules of my forum although I understand you wanted to help other black women.
I admire that you want to help younger black women but you can help them by linking to my forum with the title of the post WITHOUT taking content from my site.
This is my work.
I have a legal right to determine where it can be published.
I want to also share that you don't help young black women by demonstrating your disregard for laws in this country.
When they see that you have done it blatantly, then they show up here at my forum and start taking content. It becomes a pattern.
Now that I know who put my material there, I ask that you remove my material from that site. COMPLETELY.
I know that there are many who do not realize that blog material is under copyright. MySpace, Facebook, WordPress and Blogger will delete pages and blogs that have copyright complaints launched against them. They all have copyright violation departments to investigate their complaints.
They don't take it lightly.
Republishing material under copyright is generally against the law. People quote others and they use excerpts of others' material all the time in their work.
You were not quoting me in your work. You were republishing MY WORK and that's very different.
Yes, I realize that tons of people are doing it everyday...just like they are using pirated music online...but there are still laws in place to protect artists - and authors.
I realize that I could close my blog and "choose" who can enter my forum. Instead, I allow my blog to be open so that more black women can have access to these important conversations.
Let me be clear though...I don't permit my posts to be republished. PERIOD.
It doesn't matter if the person who takes my content links to my blog.
I do appreciate your honesty in mentioning this to me, Karen.
For the record, I don't want my blog linked to at Long Hair Care Forum, Black Girl Online, or Nappturality. Of course, that doesn't stop people from linking to my posts there!
I will also say that while I am happy that there are black women of all ages who find pertinent issues handled comprehensively at this think tank, I have not actually sought to create a platform to appeal to those sistas who are at a "younger" stage of adulthood.
Thanks for sharing your personal experiences. I think that many women who continue to "eavesdrop" here need to understand that MANY black women out here are shunning the ideologies that they are "assuming" all of us embrace.
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
Dear Lisa,
Thank you for your feedback and reminder. It has been deleted.
Welcome back, Karen!
I am glad you mentioned that so that others can see that I don't take it lightly when people attempt to disregard the rights that I have to my work. I could spend time tracking down violators and issuing lawsuits and that would be time-consuming.
I think that black women who are so deeply passionate about discussing the need for respect for black women need to practice it with each other.
I am happy that you are mature enough and willing to step up and share that confession. I hope others are reading and will learn from that!
Thanks also for your comments on the post!
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
If not for the Internet, "black" issues wouldn't be on my mind, as much, if at all. The only black people I freely associate with are family. My non-black friends and associates outnumber black.
Most of the "black" online content I choose to absorb is about natural hair care. Why is that? Black online / offline content, unfortunately, can be soul depressingly negative, narrow minded, lacking emotionally and intellectually stimulating content.
I find black liberals, progressives and the "Black Thought Police" to be off-putting. They have beliefs, or positions, which defy common sense, and are mostly injurious to black women. Since I don't believe in arguing with, or persuading strangers, I can't be bothered to read their content.
I read your blog often. I don't respond, because I find I agree with most of the content. I also look at everything from a "Does it apply or would work for me?" point of view. So, if I feel it doesn't pertain to me, I ignore it.
As for the race traitor stuff, I disliked Clarence Thomas, because of his treatment of Anita Hill. But then again, I wasn't there when the alleged harassment occurred....
My pet peeve "black" expression: You know how we do. No, I don't.
I think you are double speaking, because on one hand you say that Black women or Blacks in general have the responsibility of upholding values for the advancement of our race and community. Then on the other hand you contend that the ones who've already gained advancements don't owe the collective anything nor have any responsibility whatsoever.
Also, Angela Davis and her work was applauded by the Black community and women in general. She even says herself that when she was underground people (Blacks) were posting signs on their houses saying that she was welcome there. You speak from the Black bougeois perspect which is double speak in it's conception. Most who have made advancements have a responsibility to the status quo which is White for allowing them to be in their positions in the first place and can not sympathise with Black issues unless they be toppled down from that position.
MLK knowingly gave his life for the cause. Angela Davis risked her life and gave up her freedom for a while for the cause. You are not willing to do that. It's too hot for you in the kitchen; therefore you must leave.
The Jews didn't call the Nazi concentration camps "Jewish communities".
That is as good a ten-word illustration of a complex phenomenon as I have ever read.
Welcome GoldenAh!
Thanks for sharing!
It's good for all of the blog visitors to jump into the dialogue and share their own personal stories... if they agree or disagree...because someone reading their story may find something that they can identify with and it may cause them to share something that no one has shared yet.
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
Welcome Arthur!
I think that black women have some lessons that can be learned from the mentalities adopted by Jews who were in concentration camps.
I often read accounts from Jewish concentration camp survivors and then I define the ideological bridge from the mentality of those in captivity to the current applications of dominance theory that many Jewish corporate leaders in this country have utilized.
For those who are reading and not commenting... I am not attempting to create any parallel between Jewish extinction by the Nazis and black slavery in America...
(Arthur, believe me, I know I have to give that clarification to some folks.)
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
Welcome Fass52!
Ahhh... a black divestment opponent has shown up here using a blocked profile!
Why am I not surprised?
Well... you clearly haven't read the divestment series. Your comments reflect deep ignorance of what divestment is.
Read the series...if you are so inclined. If you aren't interested, then I am not sure WHY you are in this comment section at all.
You are ATTEMPTING to summarize my positions but you are doing so with incorrect statements. You aren't the first to try that at this forum.
You said:
"I think you are double speaking, because on one hand you say that Black women or Blacks in general have the responsibility of upholding values for the advancement of our race and community."
What I think is that you don't understand what has been presented.
You said:
"Also, Angela Davis and her work was applauded by the Black community and women in general."
This is the biggest lie that socres of blacks have embraced. They tell the same lie about Martin and Malcolm now that they are dead!
My father was good friends of Angela Davis. Angela WAS NOT being widely supported by blacks in her 20s and WAS NOT being applauded by black women as a whole.
You said:
"You speak from the Black bougeois perspect which is double speak in it's conception."
Ahhhh... now you have revealed why you have shown up here presenting distortions of my positions.
Your class jealousies and class biases are now surfacing in your comments...and perhaps you aren't even aware of them.
Perhaps this is why you are using a blocked profile...to show up at black women's forums and offer these distortions? {yawn}
Did someone leave the gate unlocked on the plantation again?!!
We've seen all this that you are spewing in this forum before.
~~ End of Part One ~~
~~ Part Two of Two ~~
First, you may "think" that the black bourgeoisie is associated with the black upper class. It isn't anymore.
It is associated with the black MIDDLE class.
Lawrence Otis Graham was quoted as saying, "I do not identify myself with the black bourgeoisie. I have graduated from the middle class."
Ahhh.
Second, the black middle class is not a monolithic group and neither is the black upper class.
Check out my post on "Examining The De-Black Tactic". You may have some delusions about the existence of BlackThinkTM, that is described by Dr. Kimberly Jade Norwood.
Perhaps I am the first to tell you....there will never be one mindset that all blacks in ANY segment internalize.
I know many people in the black upper class. I will assure you that they have differing family backgrounds, perspectives, conditioning, ideologies and educations.
Hmmmm, imagine that...there is actually diversity of intellect and personhood among blacks in the SAME class tier! Shocking??
For some, yes. This reckoning requires that you deal with blacks as individuals and not based on the figments of your imagination about one segment of blacks.
For some black people who have come to this forum, THAT is quite difficult to do.
You said:
"Most who have made advancements have a responsibility to the status quo which is White for allowing them to be in their positions in the first place and can not sympathise with Black issues unless they be toppled down from that position."
This is pure, UNADULTERATED BULL but it is a comment that I have heard frequently from blacks who were "programmed" in the lower class tier.
Check out the post on "The Mentality of Entitlement" and read the comment section!
There are some blacks who have been "conditioned" to think that blacks who succeed outside of non-black constructs have done so by compromising! I suppose this assumption allows them to validate their mediocrity and lack of achievement in life....
Many blacks in the lower class tier are "conditioned" to think that black people who gain power were GIVEN power and position by whites. The problem with this mentality is that it elevates an erroneous assumption that black progress depends on external benevolence.
It seems that you have missed the ENTIRE point of the post but I am not surprised. I now have a "glimpse" into the mindset that you have brought to this discussion.
Absorbing this material requires a level of consciousness that I don't perceive you have acquired...and I don't say that to be condescending.
Since you felt free to offer interpretions of my views...I am also taking liberties to offer interpretations of yours!
You need to read more of the material at this forum but I won't be surprised if you refuse to.
Frankly, I won't be lamenting your decision not to.
You won't be offended if I delete your further remarks, will you? I already see where your path in this discussion is leading...and it leads NO WHERE that any one who is serious about empowerment will choose to go...
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
Wow! I couldn't access this blog anymore a while ago. I'm so glad I can now.
Lisa, I AM too, I will not sacrifice my self-actualization for anyone. I'm seeing the result of this group thinking mentality in my family and they HATE it when I point it out. The problem is simply intellectual LAZINESS. People have been GIVEN opinions by their families about EVERYTHING in life, and never sat down and questionned them. Dating out makes you a traitor. Being a republican makes you a traitor. Michael was called a traitor for making "white people music". Oprah is said to be acting and talking white. You're learning italian, you hate yourself cause if you really loved your skin and your ancestors, you'd be teaching yourself swahili, not the "white man's language" (whatever that means). You speak against anything considered "black" (from Rap to Tyler Perry), you're a traitor too. Being highly educated makes you "white washed".
I've heard way too many things. But my mind is free.
Welcome Lola!
Thank you so much for joining in this discussion and for sharing your personal experiences!
I am attempting to deal with all of the mental barriers that black women erect in order to justify their refusal to leave all-black constructs and become class-mobile and globally-astute.
I addressed some of these issues in the post on Self-Hatred.
I realize that being accused of black self-hatred is one fear that black women have. Being accused of being a traitor to the race for choosing to leave all-black constructs that are often pure HELL HOLES is another deep fear.
If all you have been exposed to is that construct, then you don't even define it as a "hell hole". That's also part of the problem.
A lady at my former church didn't move into a white suburb until she was in her 30s. The suburb was about 20 minutes from the ghetto that she had spent her life in but you would THINK that she was leaving the Planet Earth the way she acted like it was such a huge feat to move to a white suburb.
For her, it was.
For me, it was a shrug. I've been around whites all of my life. I have no fears about white people.
She said she didn't realize how filthy dirty the ghetto streets were until she saw a suburb where the streets were washed clean and had no litter at all! She was in her thirties when she had this reckoning.
I was floored.
She was talked about by the church members for "wanting to be white" and "rejecting where she came from". She had to grow up emotionally and make a choice about how she would define herself rather than allowing her black construct to define her.
The fear of being scoffed at, ridiculed, taunted, rejected by the black constructs that they closely identify with has been a slave chain on the mind. This is why there are so many people "eavesdropping" at this forum!
They don't want to reveal their fears.
I want to confront the fears. They may "assume" that I am here to bash the person who has fears.
This is because they don't understand what we are attempting to achieve in this forum.
They timidly press their ear to the door and try to "listen in" on what we are saying...or they link to a post here at a discussion board that has people who think like they do and then ask THOSE folks to comment on it...because they know those folks will make all of the comments that justify their mentalities.
I've even seen black women link to my posts at their own blogs ASKING their readers to define and explain what I am saying! But... they don't step into this conversation and ask me themselves! Ahhh...all of the ways black women attempt to avoid self-interrogation...
It's time we address these fears boldly.
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
Great post Lisa. Not much to add since you've hit it right on the nail as always.
Lisa,
Are you saying that no one can be considered a race traitor because no black individual is required to do anything for the collective? I believe that there are race traitors. When I was growing up, I was taught that anytime I went out in public I not only represented my parents but also my race. I understood that as black people we are individuals who are very diverse but I also realized from being in all-white constructs that most whites see us as a group. I was told that anytime I did not put my best foot forward and strive for excellence I was a traitor to not only my parents but also to all those who came before me and made sacrifices so that I could be free. So, I believe that there are race traitors. Most of the behavior that we label as "acting black" is teacherous. The drug dealers who sell drugs to their neighbors are race traiors. The "entertainers" like Kanye West, Snoop Doggy Dogg, and Nelly who portray sisters in their videos as hos are traitors to the race. And yes, some of those other people that you mentioned in your article are also race traitors. Like Clarence Thomas, not because he married a white woman or is a conservative Republican, but because he has made evry effort to turn back the hands of time by voting against evry civil rights measure since his appointment. He voted against affirmative action event though he benefitted from it more than once in his life. To me, he is a race traitor. I know you don't agree. Also, I don't appreciate the way he treated Anita Hill. As for MJ, I never thought he wanted to be white. He had vitaligo. When will black folks get this through their heads? Also, he supported many black causes such as the Million Man March. I was a little disturbed though that he chose to adopt white children. But who knows if he had lived, he may have chosen to adopt some black children one day. He always said he wanted to adopt children of all races. Also, his plastic surgery IMO, was a result of the trauma that he experienced as a child. His father teased him about his appearence mercilessly, especially about his nose.
Just my thoughts,
Peace and solidarity,
Tasha
Welcome Ebony Intuition!
Thanks so much for dropping in!
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
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Welcome Tasha212!
Thanks for joining this conversation!
You asked:
"Are you saying that no one can be considered a race traitor because no black individual is required to do anything for the collective?"
I didn't say that no one can be a race traitor and that wasn't the point that is being presented in this post.
The point of this post is to re-examine the DEFINITIONS that black women as a group have been conditioned to cling to in order to deem someone a "race traitor".
You said:
"When I was growing up, I was taught that anytime I went out in public I not only represented my parents but also my race."
Not all black children are conditioned to believe this or internalize this.
I was taught that I represent MYSELF and my family when I am out in public but that other people would likely make generalizations about my race based on whatever I was saying or doing.
You said:
"
I was told that anytime I did not put my best foot forward and strive for excellence I was a traitor to not only my parents but also to all those who came before me and made sacrifices so that I could be free."
As I mentioned in several posts at this blog, there are plenty of black girls who grew up in black constructs (and those who did not but whose parents did) who are programmed to embrace "race women" ideologies.
You have shared an example of that programming.
You said (about Michael):
"I was a little disturbed though that he chose to adopt white children."
I don't think that blacks HAVE to only adopt black children if they want to have children. There are many races of children to choose from. They are as entitled to choose from the entire range of races of children as non-blacks are.
White people choose to adopt Asian girls all the time and no one accuses them of hating their whiteness for doing so.
This is a very small detail but just to be factual...Michael did not adopt his first two children. They were born while he was married to Debbie Rowe. He only adopted his third child, Blanket.
Thanks for sharing!
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
NOTE TO FASS52:
Your three comments are deleted. This isn't Pettyville USA.
You aren't surprised that your comments are deleted, are you? *LOL*
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I am aware you are coming to this site from Oakland, California and that your computer terminal is located on Nicol Avenue...in the 2600 block of Nicol Avenue in fact!
You have come to the wrong forum if you think you can not be tracked.
And by the way...your allegation that I have called you names in my comment section is utterly ridiculous. Everyone can see my response to you for themselves.
"The point of this post is to re-examine the DEFINITIONS that black women as a group have been conditioned to cling to in order to deem someone a "race traitor".
One thing that I've found helpful is to take away the other person's privilege to set the definition. It's one of those strategies that can be used for good or evil, so I try to be very explicit about the fact that I am using this technique when I do it.
So someone says "you're a Something", and you challenge that person on that definition - then you've effectively eliminate their use of language as a smokescreen and move them into a position where they have to be very precise.
It's the "What exactly do you mean when you say Something?" conversation. It's based on the philosophy that a hallmark of power is the ability to set the standard and the definitions. A position of lesser power means that the person has to react to the definition: they can be in alliance or in opposition, but they're using someone else's language as parameter boundaries.
Then you force a challenge to each of their criteria, and then question their authority on why they have the right to set the criteria in the first place.
If the user has no moral authority OR no logical framework for their challenge, this won't work. But if your logic is sound and your motive is just, then it's effective.
It can also be used in a benign manner, to be sure that everyone's all on the same page (we all have "trigger" words that we've endowed with definitions that make total sense to us, but that aren't universal.)
An example: Bob calls Mary a race traitor. Mary makes Bob explain exactly what that means, and Bob gives defintions A, B, C. Then Mary can challenge Bob on two points:
1. Is she really doing A, B, C?
2. Does A, B, C really define race treason?
Then Mary redefines the terms to her own benefit:
"based on this, a race traitor would be SomethingElse, not Something. So what gives you the right to dictate what/who is a traitor?"
One warning: people use this strategy to silence or shut down debate, and it works, but I think it's a poor use of this technique. If I really want someone to shut up, then what I'm saying is I don't want to listen. My particular response is just to not listen, and I don't waste energy telling people to shut up. In this case, I'd say something like "Oh well, I guess I'm a race traitor" and then let them wear themselves out with their bluster.
I like to use the redefintion technique with people who are well intentioned, but who really haven't thought it through. Also with people who are really dangerous, whose lies need to be exposed to the people who can't sense the venom.
What I have found works better for me is creating a community based on common behaviors, beliefs and reciprocity. Just because people share similar skin color or ancestry does not mean they share similar world views.
I have never been one to just follow the crowd. Groupthink can be dangerous, toxic groupthink can be deadly.
Peace
Welcome Anna!
Thanks for sharing your approach!
That's an important strategy.
One point I wanted to make...
I honestly don't think that it is possible for black women to "take away someone's privilege" because they have to be in a certain place of power in order to control the MECHANISMS that secure privilege... especially class privilege.
I have been telling women at this blog that class privilege trumps race privilege in this country. They didn't understand that because many were from lower class tier where they are "programmed" to believe that race privilege is supreme. If THAT were true then we would not see the MAJORITY of white people in the working class. There are more white people in the working class than there are in the middle class.
If race privilege mattered more than class privilege in this country then the statistics of white people in the upper class tier would be vastly different.
When black women realize this then they will become serious about mastering the class landscape. I keep mentioning it but I just don't think many black women "get it"... *sigh*
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
Welcome Southland Diva!
You are right!
I have tried to make that point when I presented the post, "The Myth of Black Monoculturalism". I kept seeing other blog forums mentioning that blacks in this country have a SHARED origin and a SHARED culture... this falsehood was being perpetuated by those black women who have been in black constructs all of their lives. They think that because they grew up in environments where blacks were a monolithic group that ALL blacks everywhere in this nation will have the characteristics and mentalities that they encountered in their construct.
*shaking my head in disbelief*
This blog forum proves that black women don't think alike! *LOL*
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
Rev. Lisa,
I agree with your statements about privilege: I used the word in an imprecise way - I should have said "ability".
I think that the thing to do when someone stands on their privilege (and you don't want them to) is to call them on it, and emphasize that the person isn't "fighting fair" when they use their privilege in an oppressive manner.
I don't know if it's a great tactical maneuver, because it depends on the idea that the other person really cares whether or not their being unfair, and if they're aware of their own privilege. However, I don't yet have a better strategy on how to handle this.
I'm going to think more on how to navigate the class landscape: this is a really excellent point, and I want to consider it more. A childhood friend is making the transition from one class tier to one a few steps higher. It's been interesting to see the mental, emotional, intellectual, geographical, linguistic and physical changes this person has made in order to enter the new tier. Also the research and observational learning that had to be done to understand the different social rules of the new tier.
Originally, my friend described these changes as self-sacrifices (it takes a lot of work to change one's life). But as their self-assurance and knowledge increased, these changes were gradually redefined as "self-investments." I think that soon this person will have a new definition, and look at their life as the returns of their investments.
It's been informative for me to watch, because as this person is challenging themselves, they are also challenging the people around them. I can't say that I was a fast learner, because I've spent (too long) in the mindset of change = sacrifice instead of investment.
But I'm beginning to understand that a person may need to make radical changes in multiple aspects of their life in order to thrive, and many of these involve our internalized mental constructs.
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