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Monday, July 13, 2009

BLACK CHILDREN DON'T KNOW THAT RACISM EXISTS?

The media is still covering the incident at the The Valley Swim Club as the President explains that he misspoke when he said that the black children would change the "complexion" and "atmosphere" of the club. The Creative Steps Day Camp received an invitation from the club president to reinstate their membership and Creative Steps put their lawsuit on hold.

On hold? This is one reason why black people won't be taken seriously.

They are openly discriminated against and as soon as the racists find that their dastardly deed has national media attention, they try to make amends and the black folks decide to put their litigation on hold. Why? They had a very clear-cut discrimination suit in which a settlement would have been awarded.

What surprised me was that the director of Creative Steps Day Camp mentioned on national news that some of the children were crying when they were turned away from the swim club and that they would need to have therapy.

I am not sure how old these children are but I was aware of racism when I was in kindergarten.

My family belonged to a private country club when I was a child. The club members were white. They didn't dare to deny our family admission. The actual photo of the club grounds is shown at the right. I am sure that there were racist members of the club. They never made their racism blatant because they knew that swift repercussions would result. My father doesn't accept apologies from white racists. He hits them where it hurts the most.

I remember when a professor came to this forum and mentioned that her friend had recently moved into an all-white area after purchasing a condo. She said that white male neighbors were regularly sexually harassing her friend. I am wondering if her friend called the police at the time of the first incident. I am wondering if the police addressed the situation after the first report. I am wondering if she contacted the Chief of Police after the first incident - or whether she just rolled her eyes. I am also wondering if she didn't do anything except whine and complain to her black friends on the phone!

The reason why I have to wonder these things is because I know scores of black women who ignore sexual predators in their midst. They will continue walking down the street while a predator is following closely behind the making vulgar comments about their body parts. They don't know how to dial 911? Or they just feel that it's okay to grant instant immunity to criminals who stalk women walking down the street?

I think that black women need to evaluate how mentally prepared we are to address racism. The divestment discussions that we have had revealed to me how fearful many black women are about leaving all-black constructs. It also revealed how difficult it is for many of them to confess that they are deeply afraid of being the only black person in all-white settings.

Why would any black person be afraid of being in all-white settings?

I have no understanding of that fear because I grew up in all-white settings, and I had traveled all over the world during my childhood. I was used to being around people from many different cultures and class tiers. I have never felt intimidated when encountering people who didn't look like I do, dress like I do or sound like I do.

Why is social rejection so frightening for so many black women? I have met many black women who have allowed themselves to be taken advantage of by family members because they were afraid to be ostracized by their siblings or relatives. I have met black women who were silent about the rapes of their own daughters because they were afraid to be scorned by church members if they spoke out.

I believe that those who are most afraid of social rejection are those persons who have been "conditioned" to foster self-identity through group association. Not every black woman has been conditioned to foster self-worth based on the level of social validation that she receives - but many have been. How do we begin to dismantle this dysfunctional method of constructing self-worth?

One reason why there are black women who react negatively (and fearfully) to discussions about the myth of black monoculturalism is because their identity is tied to the notion of racial homogeneity and racial conformity! When we begin to discuss the fragmentation of racial conformity, it attacks their source of security. Their sense of self was fostered by an erroneous belief that all black people in this country had similar origins, similar backgrounds, one culture, and one belief system. If that belief is attacked, they are forced to find another means to define themselves!

By telling themselves "all black women are _________" they validate all of their traits. They tell themselves that the traits they have are traits that belong to all black women. Once they learn that they have deceived themselves, they are not sure how to interpret their traits. They no longer are able to assign their own traits to an entire group for validation!

I recently mentioned to a discussion participant that accepting the reality that blacks are not a monolithic group means that blacks have to be viewed as individuals. Many black people don't actually want to view blacks as individuals. It's easier for them to walk through life being totally ignorant about the level of diversity in the black race in our country. Abandoning ignorance requires a change in self-definition. It is difficult to alter our self-definitions. This is why divestment is such a difficult discussion for many black women.

There are many black women who don't know how to redefine themselves. (We aren't the only ones who don't know how!)

How do you redefine yourself if you are not dependent on the traits of a group to give validity to your own personhood?

Those children from the Creative Steps Day Camp were not taught that their self-worth is not based on whether they are accepted by white people. Assuming that all of these children were older children, I believe that if a strong sense of black pride had been instilled in them, they would not have been surprised, crying (or traumatized) when they encountered racism at the pool. I blame the director of the day camp for the lack of mental preparedness of the children for the racism they faced.

Where is the vetting process?

Let us quickly review the situation with Creative Day Camp.

The director sees a nice club that appears to be white. She decides to call and ask for information for her campers to use the swimming pool. She sends in her money for the campers. She didn't visit the club before she sent in the money? She didn't spend time at the club in order to learn about the club atmosphere? The same day the children visited for the first time was her first visit too? She's bringing black children from Philly into an all-white club and she thought that they all would greet her and her group with a rousing rendition of "We Are The World"?

Where is the common sense? Newsflash for black women who enter all-white settings: Never assume that racism will not rear its head.

I have been in many all-white settings where racism was present and was not brought to my attention out of fear of my acts of retaliation. I have been in many all-white settings where I was openly embraced. I won't ever assume that racism has been eradicated from this society. It seems that the director of Creative Steps Day Camp thought that she could just bring black children from Philly into a white suburban environment without creating any alarm at all? Pure naivety? Pure stupidity? I can't decide.

After hearing her comments to the media, I doubt that she had prepared the black children of the day camp for the realities of being in a setting where there may be different class norms or cultural norms. You may be thinking "it's just a swimming pool, Lisa! It's not that deep!" It is that deep because we now see exactly what happened on the day of the pool visit.

This forum has a divestment platform. It also has many posts that prepare black women to dismantle certain mentalities that will prove detrimental outside of all-black constructs.

One mentality that will prove detrimental outside of all-black constructs is a belief that racism doesn't exist. Another mentality that will prove detrimental outside of all-black constructs is a belief that every white person is a secret member of the Klan (or a potential recruit).

The director of Creative Steps Day Camp said that she was surprised to encounter racism. She must be a fool. Is she clinging to the notion of a postracial America because a biracial man from Hawaii and his black wife from the Southside of Chicago are living in the White House?

All of the blogs hosted by blacks that have covered this incident have expressed outrage over the blatant racism by the club. {yawn} I am hardly surprised that this incident occurred at a private white club. I am more outraged that black people are still being "surprised" by acts of racism and have not become skilled at addressing racism.

The black children are emotional and crying because they don't understand why these white people don't want them around their children. They don't understand it? What does it take for black parents to give their black children the tools needed to navigate a classist white supremacist patriarchal infrastructure?

The professor who came to this forum a few weeks ago and mentioned that her friend was being sexually harassed by white male neighbors did not mention the actions that her friend had taken. I still wonder why.

There are three ways to deal with racism:
1) Pretend that it doesn't exist until white people do something to wake you out of denial.
2) Act emotional and rant about it among other blacks.
3) Have a plan in place before encountering it and then execute it swiftly so that steep consequences result.

Clearly, the director of the Creative Steps Day Camp was operating with denial and that denial impacted the lack of preparedness of the children to deal with what unfolded. Newsflash for all who are still asleep: Racism and classism exists.

There are white people who don't want their white children around black children. The reason why they don't want their white children around black children is because they feel that black children are poorly behaved. They feel that black children are criminals-in-training. They cling to these beliefs because they are racist and bigoted. One of the children from the day camp reported that as soon as they got into the pool, the white children got out of the pool.

Your nine-year old Malik may be an adorable, precocious boy to you. To a white racist, your darling Malik is a possible purse snatcher. How do you educate your children about classist and racist stereotypes without instilling resentment and bigotry against all white people?

It is exasperating to me that at this forum, I still have to educate adults who are in their 20s and 30s about the class landscape in this country. This reveals to me that plenty of black parents are not educating their children about classism. It seems that if black parents have mentioned racism to their children at all, they have taught their children to harbor bigoted views and to validate blanket assumptions about all white people.

We need to do better.

If we are going to become influential in the global arena, we need a plan in place to address racism. We can't be so easily pacified. I could not believe that the director of the Creative Steps Day Camp put her lawsuit on hold after the club apologized. She paid less than $2,000 to the club and her money was refunded by the club after the incident.

The Valley Swim Club will pay a lot more in a settlement when they lose a discrimination lawsuit. So the victims of racism are now backing down just because they received an apology and an invitation to return? Why would they want to return?

The Valley Swim Club will throw a barbeque when they return just to pretend that they aren't actually racists - now that the nation is watching them. I can see the newscast now... white members waving and smiling at the black children... hugging the black parents... white women holding brownies with pasted-on smiles. The news crew interviewing the black children who say that they are having a wonderful time and that they are happy to be invited back. {finger in mouth}

Sistas, we need to get serious about having proactive strategies in place when we enter non-black constructs because classism and racism will meet us there. It's a complete waste of time to act outraged with no plan of action.

We do such a fine job when it's time to complain and to be offended on television.

Where's the proactive strategy to hit racists where it hurts the most?

23 COMMENTS:

LISA VAZQUEZ said...

TO ALL READERS:

The blog, Stuff White People Do, has a post, "Refuse To Swim With Black People" about the Valley Swim Club incident.

http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/
2009/07/refuse-to-swim-with-black-people.html?showComment=1247509184918

Lucy said...

Again, you've opened my eyes Lisa. I haven't even researched power sources that may be available to me. I just assume that there are none out there. This is a character flaw but I wonder if other black women don't feel the same way.

I really hope they don't settle for an apology.

There's no incentive to stop the offensive behavior if all you have to do is look sheepish and apologize to forgo punishment.

*sigh*

Hey Shae! said...

"...know scores of black women who ignore sexual predators in their midst. They will continue walking down the street while a predator is following closely behind the making vulgar comments about their body parts. They don't know how to dial 911? Or they just feel that it's okay to let criminals stalk women walking down the street with immunity?"

This stood out to me because a few months back I saw a video on another blog of women trying to get into a club, but they had to walk through a crowd of men to get in line. As they walked through, men with cameras captured the girls getting their breasts and backsides grabbed and groped. All I could think of was, "Why would the second, third and last woman walk into that crowd? Don't they have cell phones?" I would have been across the street calling the police. No club is worth me being molested by a group of dirty guys who have the gall to tape it and display their dirty deeds on the internet.

Where were their minds at that point? And what would make those guys think this was something they could do without repercussions? It was very disturbing.

"Why is social rejection so frightening for so many black women? I have met many black women who have allowed themselves to be taken advantage of by family members because they were afraid to be ostracized by their siblings or relatives. I have met black women who were silent about the rapes of their own daughter because they were afraid to be scorned by church members if they spoke out."

I don't understand this either. I know of some people who have no faith in the legal system and no matter what, feel they will never be protected by the law so they never complain. Even when it is detrimental to another's well being. I wonder the same about people who watch a criminal commit an act but refuse to tell the police about it. The social rejection must have a play in that coupled with the mistrust of the law.

"I believe that those who are most afraid of social rejection are those persons who have been "conditioned" to foster self-identity through group association."

I think you hit that one right on the nose.

I have caught myself going into an all-white setting a few times with a slight apprehension, but I think it is because there was nothing there visually that I could tie back to myself or immediately relate to. But it has never stopped me from moving forward. Once you are in the setting you realize there is always something that connects you to another person, race, etc. There is a common ground you can reach, but you can't let a fear of the unknown cripple you. And you must be strong enough to know that NO ONE is better than or less than you.

And back to the original point, I too think the fight is sometimes given up too easily.

Do you think we black people have come feel the fight is no longer worth it?

Krystal (aka Pirouette) said...

Growing up in Vermont for the first eleven years of my life, I was aware of racism by the age of six when an older white boy called me the N word. I knew from a very young age that I had to be twice as smart as the white kids to be perceived as an intellectual equal by my teachers and peers. I learned this without my parents explicitly explaining this to me.

I wish my parents had prepared me for the racism I faced at such and early age while we lived in Vermont, but, nevertheless, it helped me to effectly navigate non-black environments well into my adulthood, including college, graduate school, and working at a prestigious university. Being familiar with the ways of white folks is an essential survival skill if you are going to be immersed in predominately white environments on a long-term basis.

I've encountered white racism in church where people are supposed to know better. One time I called a guy out on a racist comment he made in my presence and embarrassed the heck out of him. He was sweet as pie to me thereafter, I guess to prove he wasn't a racist jerk.

At that time I a member of a young adults group, and I left it because I was disgusted and disillusioned by the racist and classist attitudes exhibited there. I really couldn't believe people who called themselves Christians could behave in such unchristian ways. Interestingly, most of those people left the church.

Now I'm in a new single's group, and this time I decided to stay and set the tone instead of run away when someone makes a stupid comment. It's important to know how whites think so you can strategize and work around the social constructs they have made. Beat them at their own game. Learn their language and use it gain a footing into their world that creates bridges and commonalities. Then they start to see you as "exceptional." This can work to your advantage. I could say more, but I'll just leave it there.

Ebony Intuition said...

" I can see the newscast now... white members waving and smiling at the black children... hugging the black parents... white women holding brownies with pasted-on smiles. The news crew interviewing the black children who say that they are having a wonderful time and that they are happy to be invited back.
{finger in mouth}
"
And it looks like that will happened because the club has "extened" the olive branch out to the camp.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/12/pennsylvania.pool.problems/index.html

tasha212 said...

Lisa,

I am baffled by this story. I hadn't heard that the summer camp dropped the lawsuit. What was the point of complaining in the first place? Obviously, those black parents are not doing their jobs in raising their black children to survive and thrive in America. I saw an interview with one of the little boys on tv and he started crying during the interview. The reporter asked him why he was crying and he responeded that he thought things had changed. I also think, as you noted, that the camp director was foolish for not visiting the club before she even signed the kids up. She had to know that there was a possibility that there would be some problem because these were inner city Philly kids going to a suburban white area. Also, she could've prepared campers for the change. Having a conversation with the children about acceptable and unacceptable behavior. When we were young and were brought different places my parents always told me what to expect and what was acceptable in whatever place we were going to. Therefore, I knew that certain behaviors that were acceptable at home or amongst "my people" were not acceptable elsewhere. I don't know what happened to that style of parenting where black children were prepared for the real world. I also don't understand why the camp director was surprised to encounter racism. She is an adult. I know she can't be delusional enough to truely believe that racism is over. I sure hope not. Also, I think that her decision to concede and drop the lawsuit will make it harder for people to take us seriously. Racists will think all they need to do is apologize and allow us to be included and everything will be fine. Why would you want to be included when you're not wanted? Where is your self-respect? I think had she ignored the apology and invitiation, it would've sent a message to the children about self-respect and holding your grown and not making idle threats. It would've taught them that it is not ok to moan and complain about racism while not having an effective strategy to combat it. Too many of us settle for an apology and grudging acceptance when what we need to do is fight the system head on. Not all of the time, but when it's necessary.

Thanks for bringing a different perspective on this story. I've read posts that went so far as to somewhat justify the actions of the club president! Supposedly, because collectively we have become tainted. Other blogs simply complain. So thanks as always for your unique perspective.

Peace and solidarity,

Tasha

Alta said...

Why would they want to return? The Valley Swim Club will throw a barbeque when they return just to pretend that they aren't actually racists - now that the nation is watching them. I can see the newscast now... white members waving and smiling at the black children... hugging the black parents... white women holding brownies with pasted-on smiles. The news crew interviewing the black children who say that they are having a wonderful time and that they are happy to be invited back.
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They put the lawsuit on hold? I wish the parents would realize the situation you wrote that I quoted above. That is not just sickening, it's downright embarrassing.

Ebony Intuition said...

I read about this incident over the weekend. And by far your response to it has been the best.

You said:
"On hold? This is one reason why black people won't be taken seriously. "

I agree, people always complain but they either never file a complaint or once they receive an apology they assume that everything is fine.

I remember when I was in high school, in my visual media class, the teacher who was a white male. Accused my group of stealing a video camera. We waited about 10 minutes then this other group in the class that did have the camera came back inside the class room. As soon as they came in my group went to the Principles office and reported what our teacher had accused us of.

I had no problem reporting what happened because 1. I know my group did not steal it. and 2.If the teacher was smart he would have waited until all the students returned before assuming that someone stole the camera.

"She didn't visit the club before she sent in the money? She didn't spend time at the club in order to learn about the club atmosphere? "

That's what I don't understand isn't it mandatory for camps/daycares/schools to check out where they are going to take kids on mini trips etc prior to taking them there.

LISA VAZQUEZ said...

Welcome Ebony Intuition!

Thanks so much for starting off this discussion! I read a lot of blog discussions about this incident and I wasn't going to write about it at all, but I realized that there was a key aspect of this discussion that blacks were not having.

We need to be accountable for the way black children are UNPREPARED to address racism and classism.

The Valley Swim Club was being racist but they were also being classist. I know many blacks who continue to accuse whites of racism who are actually practicing classism. They often "assume" that any rejection or negativity that they receive from non-blacks is only because of their race...and they don't even ponder that it could be because of the assumptions made about their class of origin.

Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
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Welcome Alta!

It really IS deeply embarrassing! You are right.

It also causes very negative ramifications for all black people who want to attack racism.

When white people are called out on their racism, they are usually defensive or they suddenly turn very sweet and gracious to prove that they were misunderstood!

Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
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Welcome Tasha212!

Thank you for sharing your viewpoints!

You said:
"Having a conversation with the children about acceptable and unacceptable behavior. When we were young and were brought different places my parents always told me what to expect and what was acceptable in whatever place we were going to. Therefore, I knew that certain behaviors that were acceptable at home or amongst "my people" were not acceptable elsewhere."

I can not tell you how many times I have watched black people in non-black settings with behaviors that are completely unacceptable outside of their own class tier and environment. They are usually being too loud and making a scene. Their children are acting like they have never been let out of the house and then some mother screams at her child at the top of her lungs - as if her child is hard of hearing and she could not have confronted wrong behavior without displaying belligerent and out-of-control.

There are so many black women I talk to who complain that "we're seen as tramps by white people!" and they don't understand that when black women wear figure-flaunting clothing in non-black settings, they are usually being viewed as "risque" or "slutty". They don't think that the cultural norms are different so they just show up everywhere acting the way they act in black settings, looking the way that black women look in black settings and THEN are offended when they face stares, glares and non-verbal disapproval? They think all social norms should remain the same as they are in the ghetto - outside of the ghetto? Really? *shaking my head*

I read a news report years ago when some black people claimed racism when they were at a white restaurant and the white waitress said that they needed to learn English if they wanted to be understood. Granted, her comment was rude. However, there are some black people who I have listened to and I don't even understand their attempts at speaking the English language! They sound so illiterate that it's exhausting to even try to follow their conversation...

I'm not saying that the black diners were not being discriminated against but I read that news article and I wondered about their English skills. I know many black people who don't even realize how they sound because they have spent most of their lives around blacks who sound just like they do.

I am not saying that white people don't have atrocious English skills - because they do! They botch the language too.

Still...

Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa

LISA VAZQUEZ said...

Welcome Krystal!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with all of us!

You said:
"It's important to know how whites think so you can strategize and work around the social constructs they have made."

Yes, yes!

This is why I continue to tell black women who spend their lives in black constructs that if they want to be influential outside of those constructs, they really do need to carefully examine the differences in social capital and social norms and class norms that exist outside of black settings.

There are black women who I banned from this forum because they didn't know HOW to communicate without using the attack-and-insult mode of conversation that is accepted in their environments. They come to every setting where they encounter differing views ready to fight because fighting is a norm where they are from. I put them out of here! This isn't a dog kennel and I am not tolerating "pit bull" women in this forum.

You mentioned that you were surprised that Christians would act racist and classist. I am not. I think that conditioning that has been fostered since toddlerhood is difficult for many to dismantle - even when they are reading the Bible. It is difficult when they are in environments where the conditioning is validated.

If that conditioning is not confronted, the assumption will be made that there is nothing wrong with that conditioning. This is why this forum has been so crucial for black women. It has been one of the few places where there is honest discussion about detrimental conditioning but also action steps to dismantle it.

Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
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Welcome Shae!

Thanks for adding to this conversation!

I continue to ask black women WHERE they learned to distrust police and WHO is benefiting from their distrust of police.

Since black men commit more rapes against black women than ANY OTHER group, and since black men commit more murders against black women than ANY OTHER group, and since black men commit more physical assault against black women than ANY OTHER group, and since black men commit more street harassment against black women than ANY OTHER group... it should be quite clear to all of us who benefits by our collective refusal to engage police.

I am tired of listening to black people interviewed on television after a killing of a child or teenager who are "claiming" that there should be more police on the streets in their neighborhoods!

More police presence isn't the real solution because crime is occurring behind closed doors in homes. Criminality is accepted in many of those environments. Predator body language is accepted. Police are not being called in and the community is to blame for not engaging police. Police often do not have willing witnesses to investigate cases that ARE reported.

That's why I don't feel increased police presence isn't the solution. It allows blacks to place the blame on the staffing levels of the police beat and ignore the culture that is being validated that supports immunity for criminals in their neighborhoods.

The culture of mistrust of police that black women validate needs to change in black constructs if they want to change the atmosphere for their own children and for themselves.

You asked a great question:
"Do you think we black people have come feel the fight is no longer worth it?"

Yes. I believe that the majority of black people are willing to whine and complain around other blacks but are not willing to acquire the tools to attack racism and classism where it hurts the most.

Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa

LISA VAZQUEZ said...

Welcome Lucy!

Thanks for adding to this!

You are sooo right!

Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa

Miss Marche said...

Hi Lisa!

I'm 26, and I feel like I'm so behind after reading this post! I never thought to have a system or a plan in place to attack racism and classism -- really, I was just taught to take note and turn the other way. I'd like to think I haven't really encountered much in the way of bigotry, but I'm thinking maybe I've just turned a blind eye, being that I never knew how to effectively deal with it. Now I'm wondering what goes into developing a systematic response. From the comments here, I see that directly addressing racism and classism, filing complaints as appropriate and FOLLOWING THROUGH with taking action are key points. Are there other steps that I might be missing?

(Also... thank you for all your writing. I've been reading and going through the archive for weeks and feeling a serious shift in my way of thinking.)

Miriam said...

"...and have not become skilled at addressing racism."


Now that is a shame.

LISA VAZQUEZ said...

Welcome Miriam!

It is a shame that we haven't become skilled at addressing racism.

The numerous blog discussions on this incident and all we ever do is rant and wail about being treated unfairly. Sometimes contact information is provided by the blog forum but how many who are reading are actually making the calls and sending the letters of protest?

I continue to insist that black women examine our ingrained approaches to racism, classism, black misogyny, sexism, and other isms because I want to encourage us to identify new tools of warfare.

Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa

LISA VAZQUEZ said...

Welcome Miss Marche!

Thanks for sharing in this conversation!

Scores of black women were taught to do nothing at all about racism and classism and sexism.

I think that more black women are realizing that a lot of what they have been taught is detrimental.

I am not sure how they feel about that realization...whether they are confused by it, or whether they feel paralyzed by it.

Step One:
Mentally prepare for social rejection and for the sneaky (and blatant) attempts by others to enforce inequality and injustice.

Being emotional about injustice rather than being strategic about attacking injustice has become too common for black women. It reflects that we aren't mentally prepared for warfare.

I know black women who would break down and become hysterical with rage if called the N word in a room full of white people. I would not even blink if someone used that word with me. Racists can't assault me mentally with words.

Any time we are acting hysterical, we are not thinking analytically.

Whenever anyone's words or actions can cause us to exhibit out-of-control behavior, they have gained power over us.

Step Two:
Have a plan of attack in mind - before racism, classism, sexism occurs.

The director of the day camp didn't vet the club BEFORE taking the children there. I'd like to know why.

The director of the day camp didn't prepare the children for the "potential" social dynamics that could unfold so that they understand that being black in an environment where blacks are not usually present WILL often result in some predictable behaviors from others.

It's the parents job to prepare their children for the realities of society but since the day camp director CHOSE the location, she is responsible for preparing them or telling the parents to prepare them. Either or.

If you are a black woman in an all-white work environment, from your first day, you need to document any situations that occur that some co-worker or boss might attempt to use against you. This is not being paranoid. This is proactive strategy.

Document anything that seems that it could reflect a pattern of classism in the work environment.

Collect anything that could be concrete evidence. Go online and read about discrimination cases to know which types of evidence the attorneys presented to win the case.

Know the policies of the company so that you can document when they are being circumvented by others. (Often, we don't know when others aren't playing by the rules because we don't bother to study the rules. Usually, we only learn the rules when we are being told WE haven't followed them.

Step Three:
Know when to present concrete evidence that can not be refuted by those who are forced to take action. Too often, we reveal our cards too early.

We need to gather a war chest so that when we blast, it is so powerful that our target can not return fire in our direction.

Don't rely on other blacks to help prove the case.

Step Four:
Force action - and specific consequences.

The woman who was being sexually harassed should have notified the police at the first incident and demanded a report. She should have notified the Chief of Police the second time. She should have contacted a lawyer prior to that!

Exact punishment where it hurts the most.

The Creative Steps Day Camp should never have put their lawsuit on hold. The apology by the club president was a bogus action to counter the negative publicity they were receiving.

Often, I have observed that lots of our sistas are too willing to make amends when we have been violated.

Someone tosses a crumb our way and we feel we have to accept it and absolve others of any further accountability?

I think the post, "Our Boundaries, Our Liberation and Our Elevation" provides some important action steps.

http://blackwomenblowthetrumpet.blogspot.com/
2009/04/our-boundaries-liberation-elevation.html

Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa

Tha L said...

I think you are absolutely correct in saying that there must be a more proactive approach for teaching children how to deal with racism. Unfortunately, I don't know how this can be done without instilling negative expectations and/or hatred simultaneously. I do believe, however, that part of the solution is ensuring that our children of color are given the gift of high self esteem. That, I believe, is the only way to be able to handle racism without falling apart. If one has a true sense of self, there should be no situation that one doesn't feel comfortable in. I can only speculate that these children had never been exposed to other cultures, had rarely been outside of their own neighborhoods...but even if that's the case, if they were blessed with the self worth to know that they were no less important than anyone else, many of them wouldn't have been as broken up as they were. As for the "putting on hold of the lawsuit", that makes absolutely no sense to me. We need to learn to play the game the way the rest of our society does.

Ebony Intuition said...

"Whenever anyone's words or actions can cause us to exhibit out-of-control behavior, they have gained power over us."

This is true, I don't blink either if someone was to call me the n word.

Krystal (aka Pirouette) said...

You mentioned that you were surprised that Christians would act racist and classist. I am not. I think that conditioning that has been fostered since toddlerhood is difficult for many to dismantle - even when they are reading the Bible. It is difficult when they are in environments where the conditioning is validated.

Right. I was pretty naive at that time, but have since caught up to speed. ;-)

LISA VAZQUEZ said...

Welcome Tha L!

Thanks for sharing!

You've made some great points!

If these children from Philly had never been exposed to other cultures before then I am not sure WHY in the world the camp director decided to pick a place that SHE had not even been inside of herself!

One child interviewed by the Philadelphia Inquirer (Dymir) was 14, another (Jabriel) was 12, another (Shuron) was 11...these are not little ones who just graduated from kindergarten!

And where were the black fathers of any of the children??!That's another issue...

I think that the way to teach children about racism and classism and sexism is to make it CLEAR that it is ignorant to make any blanket assumptions about entire groups of people even if prior experiences with members of the group have been negative.

It is important to teach children that ALL white people do not share the same beliefs or backgrounds and ALL black people do not either. This sounds so simple but if you read discussions in the blogosphere (and even at this forum!) there are scores of adults who have never learned this.

Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
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Welcome back, Ebony Intuition!

Thanks for sharing!

We need to be mentally prepared for the WORDS and the ACTIONS that others will use to set us off... I don't think that many of our sistas have prepared for that.

Many of our sistas have a tendency to become emotional and lose credibility because we don't exhibit mental discipline.

Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa

LISA VAZQUEZ said...

Welcome back, Krystal!

Thanks for returning to the discussion!

I encounter so many people who tell me that they think Christians are supposed to be __________ [fill in the blank}!

*LOL*

We can't assume that ANY group of people will have the same value system or conditioning.

Non-Christians tend to assume that ALL Christians have the same belief systems and similiar values!

When they find that all Christians do not...then they want to bash Christians as being "hypocrites"...while refusing to examine how ignorant it is to clinging to blanket assumptions.

All Christians do not define God similiarly.

All Christians do not define Christianity similarly.

I have said at this blog forum that Christian was turned into a "religion" but those who wanted to define Christianity by rituals and systems and that Jesus NEVER intended Christianity to be a religion at all. There are plenty of ministers who were "programmed" to define Christianity as a religion and will argue the point.

This is just one core example that exposes why we can't even assume any similiarities among Christians at all.

For some people, their racial indoctrination and their class indoctrination has registered more profoundly than their spiritual indoctrination...and that is evident in their thinking and in their engagement with others.

I meet new ministers all the time and I never foster any automatic assumptions that we are all like-minded.

Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa

Foxycleopatra said...

Rev. Lisa said (in reference to tackling racism):
"Have a plan in place before encountering it and then execute it swiftly so that steep consequences result"


I said:
This is an area where blacks have failed. Masively.
I think the best people to look at as an example would be the Jews. If you notice, they don't make too much noise when someone says or does something racist or percieved to be racist against Jews but you can bet that that person will pay for it. A good example would be with Louis farrakhan and the NOI. In the 1980's when he was much more vocal and made many comments that were viewed as anti-semitic. What did jewish people in America do? Did they protest? Did they write complain letters to NOI? No! The jewish organisations in America oganised together and alot of people payed for it as follows:
1. At the time, there was this programme Louis F was running which would provide supplies (food, books, clothing etc) for people in poor black residential areas. It got pulled. the sponsors pulled out. They knew how this would look (seeing as it was charity) so did everything in secret. Louis F knew they were the ones behind it and made some noise about it to no avail.

2. Several jewish organisations refused to do ANY SORT of business with anyone who was in business with Louis F or NOI.

Whether or not one might agree with it, their methods were effective.

Also if you notice, see how people (non-blacks) are always willing to come to blacks and tell them what is wrong with black people, how to solve problems affecting black people etc. How often do you see non-jewish people do this with jews?

I believe that black people can learn A LOT from jewish people.

Foxycleopatra said...

Rev.Lisa said:
"They never made their racism blatant because they knew that swift repercussions would result. My father doesn't accept apologies from white racists. He hits them where it hurts the most."

I said:
I believe that this is something that a lot of black people need to learn. Too many seem interested in the symbolic. Whether it is some lame apology, some party thrown for blacks, a token invite to a particular function, attending some black function (e.g. NAACP meeting or a black radio station etc) to 'prove' that one is not racist after the said one did something that was obviously racist. Hit them where it hurts.

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Rev. Lisa said:
"Why is social rejection so frightening for so many black women? I have met many black women who have allowed themselves to be taken advantage of by family members because they were afraid to be ostracized by their siblings or relatives. I have met black women who were silent about the rapes of their own daughters because they were afraid to be scorned by church members if they spoke out."

I said:
The reason why this even annoys me the most is because a lot of these 'relationships' and 'connections' that these black women are afraid of losing are realtionships that were never even beneficial to them in the first place. Even if the person is a relative/family member, so what? If this person is willing to abuse/molest/assault you or your child, isn't it your responsibility and sheer common sense to remove yourself or your child from such a situation by cutting the person off?
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Rev. Lisa said:
"The director of Creative Steps Day Camp said that she was surprised to encounter racism. She must be a fool. Is she clinging to the notion of a postracial America because a biracial man from Hawaii and his black wife from the Southside of Chicago are living in the White House?

All of the blogs hosted by blacks that have covered this incident have expressed outrage over the blatant racism by the club. {yawn} I am hardly surprised that this incident occurred at a private white club. I am more outraged that black people are still being "surprised" by acts of racism and have not become skilled at addressing racism.

I said:
The woman must really be a fool! I cannot even comprehend how a black person enters an all-white setting and expects that everyone there would definitely be non-racist. Huh!

As for the black bloggers throwing a fit, are they angry that racism still exists or what? One of the children said that he thought things have changed. Could it be because America elected Obama? Are people really this naive?

LISA VAZQUEZ said...

Welcome FoxyCleopatra!

Jews do not march in the streets and act hysterical on television when racism occurs. No. That's the black response.

Jews WILL strike back when they are offended. Remember when Arsenio had Louis Farrakhan on his talk show when his show was the talk of the town? Jews went into retaliation mode and Arsenio's show lost all of its corporate backing. Where is Arsenio's career now?

Jews know how to issue swift consequences. Do black women do this?

No.

I mentioned some action steps in the discussion of the post "Our Boundaries, Our Elevation, and Our Liberation" and few women commented.

They are ready to complain but not ready to issue consequences.

Where are the consequences that black women issued to black men en masse?

Yet they want to complain about the actions of black men at their blogs? If they have no plan to issue tangible and lasting consequences then I really don't even want to hear their rants...

I mean that...

Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa