There are many times when I listen to black men discuss black women. I believe that many black men feel more comfortable discussing black women with a black woman who will remain quiet and not refute every feeling that he is sharing. I am a respectful listener. I love listening because I am fascinated by people, by their life stories, and by their thoughts. While I am usually being asked to speak, or expected to lead conversation in small settings, I prefer to observe the complexity of human nature. I enjoy being intrigued by what seems different and extraordinary. Many women have been taught to feel secure in what is predictable. Our conceptualization about security is fostered at a very young age. For this reason, many women react with nervousness and discomfort and fear when encountering unfamiliar people or unexpected situations.
Many black girls are often taught to accept a self-definition that is confining and restrictive. As a result, many black women hold assumptions about what other black women should be and should not be that are rooted in oversimplified perceptions of black womanhood. How many black women speak admiringly of black women in their families who sacrificed their educational goals and their personal aspirations for others? Unfortunately, many black girls were shown that putting the needs of others first is commonly expected for black women.
If you ask any black woman how she learned about womanhood, she will most likely mention that she was taught about womanhood by her mother, grandmother, aunts and by women who were part of her "village". There are advantages and disadvantages of learning about womanhood from women who have lived in the same environment, who have remained in the same socioeconomic class, and who have spent the bulk of their lives with people from their own culture. If a black girl is primarily (or exclusively) among black people in her formative years, she usually begins to formulate a definition about "what black people are" based on what she is being told black people are, and based on what she is being shown black people are. This informs her self-definition.
I have encountered many black people who will attempt to tell other black people what is and is not black thought, black culture, and black consciousness. They have formulated assumptions of those things based on what they were told "being black" and "thinking black" consists of. They assume that they were taught correctly, and believe that what they were shown encompasses the totality of the black experience.
When they encounter a person whose definition differs from their own, it is easy to decide, "that's NOT black". It doesn't fit into the definition they were handed in childhood and it doesn't fit into the definition they choose to adopt in adulthood.
Since I grew up in an all-white town, in a family where three cultures were intertwined, I learned about womanhood much differently than most black women I have encountered in my life. My parents exposed me to many cultures while I was young because my family traveled abroad for vacations. I saw women many different cultures when I was still developing a definition of my gender. I believe this is why my definition of womanhood was not based on how women defined themselves within one culture, one socioeconomic group or one nationality.
A friend of mine, who lives abroad, has made statements about "the African slave descendants in America" that reflect that their view of themselves is detrimentally influenced by and connected to what they were told about themselves by white oppressors and by white society. Nearly all black people whom I have spoken to about this issue agree that slavery and subjugation have had an impact on our self-definition as a people and as individuals. Every black person has not internalized subjugation, marginalization, or oppression to the same degree. Some, it seems, have not internalized it at all.
Many black people looked upon the victory of Barack Obama as a symbol of what is possible for the entire black race. Unfortunately, many black people still look at other blacks in order to envision how high is high. If they haven't seen another black person achieve it, then they don't believe that it is possible. It is a disturbing mindset for me to observe - yet it is prevalent and widely condoned within the black community.
A white teenager received her Ph.D. at the age of 18 and is now a college professor in Korea. Click here to read the article. I don't hear white people saying, "now we know what is possible for white people!" when a white person makes a major achievement that is well publicized. These utterances reflect the mentality of an oppressed group, and reflect a mentality of a people who can only believe in what has been shown to them. For some people, human achievement has to be personified in order for them to envision it. Even as a small child, I never doubted that a black woman could be elected president of the United States during my lifetime.
There are many blog discussions in the black blogosphere about how Michelle Obama's role as First Lady will change the view that white America has about black people. It is an overly simplistic and rather unrealistic notion. There are plenty of prominent black people who have received world acclaim and they were viewed as the "exceptions" to the black race - and not the new definition for the black race. How easily we forget that there have been many exceptional blacks who were influential in white society but their presence failed to changed the widely held perceptions that white America chose to perpetuate about blacks. Oprah's enormous worldwide popularity didn't alter the way that most white women defined black women. Those who are caught up in romanticism and symbolism, we begin to engage in fanciful notions that having a black president will change our stature as black people in society.
I was in a race and gender workshop many years ago. The participants were white women and black women. For one group exercise, we were given slips of paper. The white women had to document their perceptions about black women and the black women had to document their perceptions about white women. We were told that our responses would be anonymous. After everyone had put their slips of paper in the baskets, the white women were told to take the basket basket and read the responses out loud. The same words were repeated again and again:
strong
outspoken
angry
aggressive
brave
coarse
confrontational
intimidating
colorful
emotional
When it was time for the black women to share what was in the white basket, the same words were uttered repeatedly:
elitist
manipulative
duplicitous
passive aggressive
self-centered
unsanitary
narrow-minded
promiscuous
materialistic
insecure
The facilitator mentioned that all of the descriptions submitted about white women were negative. The facilitator asked if there was one positive attribute about white women that many black women often articulated among each other. The black women looked at each other quizzically - and then shook their heads no. Some white women in the room folded their arms. A few darted their eyes. The black women were asked if we were surprised about the responses in the basket from the white women. Many black women shrugged and expressed that they expected that they were going to be described in the way that they were.
When the facilitator asked the white women to react to the responses in the basket, the white women seemed visibly offended. They made comments that reflected that they believed the black women in the room had "issues" with white women and that the terms placed in the basket did not reflect how "other black women" have perceived them. An open and heated group exchange occurred. After permitting a verbal exchange for five minutes, the facilitator rang the bell. (It had been agreed at the start of the workshop that if the bell was sounded, everyone had to instantly become silent.)
The facilitator pointed out that the white participants did not want to believe the perceptions about them and therefore, attempted to isolate those perceptions to reflect the views of only black women in the room. The facilitator pointed out that the black women were willing to admit that the perceptions about them that were given by the white women were prevalent within society. The facilitator pointed out that by attempting to isolate the perceptions that were shared, there was an attempt to minimize the viewpoints that were given by the black women.
The facilitator mentioned that in (white) society, white women are taught to think of themselves with positive traits. She explained that most white women believe that others associate them with positive traits, so it was shocking and disturbing for them to hear that only negative characteristics were being attributed to them. Many white women in the room nodded their heads in agreement.
The facilitator surmised that since black women are accustomed to being described negatively in society, and familiar with the negative depictions of themselves, they were more apt to believe that the descriptions that were placed in the basket were prevalent among white people and not simply a reflection of the attitudes of the white women in the room. The facilitator observed that the descriptions placed in the basket by white women directly related to narrow images of black women that black women had often encountered in society. Many black women in the room nodded their heads in agreement.
Many traits that some black women believe they must exhibit are based upon their perceptions about how they must navigate white supremacist and white sexism in patriarchal constructs. They adopt traits that they believe will emotionally insulate themselves from black misogyny, commodification and black sexism within the black community.
What was interesting about the workshop was that the facilitator was able to help black women understand that they too had accepted certain traits as being "typical" for black women.
When we were in a small group exerise, I found it interesting to discuss femininity with white women. Black women seemed to speak of femininity in terms of docility. Many black women defined femininity in terms of being demure, being passive, being meek, being gentle. These were traits that were viewed negatively. White women seemed to speak of femininity in terms of "being a woman" and seemed to view femininity admirably.
I was reminded about the differences in the expectations of femininity between white men and black men when a man who read my post about "Black Masculinity and Its Impact on Black Women" sent a note. He asked me why so many black women "chose to be so masculine". He mentioned that he felt that white women embraced femininity while black women shunned it. A four-day email exchange ensued. I wanted to explore why his perceptions about women seemed so narrow. On the third day of our conversation, I asked him, "What's more appealing to most brothas - for a sista to be sexy, feminine or intellectual? Or a combination?" He said he thought that most brothas found a woman's sexiness to be most appealing, but he defined 'sexy' in a way that objectified women. The more we exchanged notes, the more I came to understand that he viewed a woman's sexual attractiveness in terms of both sensuality and femininity. This surprised me because I held an assumption that many brothas defined a woman's sexiness in relation to visual allure and arousal. I began to ask more men about their views about black femininity.
A few of my friends are cross-dressers. They wear women's clothing and different wigs and long weaves and women's make up. It is interesting to talk to them about how they choose to reflect their definition of femininity. They often make comments that reflect a belief that women who are viewed by men as the most unfeminine are those who are boisterous, brassy, cantankerous, obese, sarcastic, argumentative, vulgar, and unrefined.
I don't think that I embody the traditional depiction of femininity and I have never tried to. A long time ago, I was a cheerleader. I have never been told I was masculine by a man. I am most comfortable in a dress and heels, so I wear them every day of the week. I love long, flowing dresses in soft fabrics. I don't do housework and I don't like dirt. There is a sculpture in my house of a nude black woman who is kneeling and tossing her hair back with her eyes closed. I bought it because she looked very feminine and very liberated. It is interesting that almost every time a man comes into my house and notices that sculpture, I am asked if I posed for it. Not one woman has said that she thought the sculpture was me.
I remember an instance when a church member had to come to my house unexpectedly because I had forgotten to bring something to church that was needed for a meeting in the morning. I had just rolled out of bed when I answered the knock at the door. The next day at church, people were asking me, "is it true that you answered the door in a sequined gown?" (Church folks love to tell your business.) I chuckled and explained, "I was not wearing a gown. It was a lounger! And yes, it has a few sequins."
I do not define femininity in terms of attire or carriage.
I am often teased by my peers because I wear stilletos seven days a week. I have worn stilletos every day for at least 15 years. A couple of years ago, I had to call an ambulance to rush me to the hospital because of fluid in my lungs. My friend ran into the E.R. calling my name while security chased her down. She turned the corner to see me lying next to machines and attached to wires. She looked down at the floor beside my bed and chuckled. She leaned over and whispered in my ear, "girl when you get up out of here, I am telling everybody that you came into the E.R. wearing stilletos!" I smiled behind my oxygen mask, and shrugged my shoulders as if to respond: "well, what can I say?" I wrote on a piece of paper and handed it to her: "A true diva must have her stilletos, even in dire emergencies!"
Since my email exchange with one of my male readers, I have found that many black men equate femininity with sensuality. I believe that promoting black femininity has advantages that we may not have examined carefully. Black feminism did not represent femininity in its traditional definition. Womanism did not promote the notion of traditional femininity. I believe that the traditional definition of femininity was rejected by many women who believed that men were projecting their own concept of femininity upon women in order to create a narrow definition for women about themselves. The traditional definition of white femininity that was being depicted in paintings, in print ads, in movies, and in literary works was clearly being promulgated by white men and was therefore, widely dismissed by black women.
In films, in magazines, in literary works by men and by women, black women are never being depicted as wholesome, innocent, gentle, virginal, ethereal, or delicate. When we do not see those representations of ourselves, a mentality can be fostered that "we are not like that".
Rejecting the traditional definition of femininity became an act of liberation and self-acceptance for many black women. Androgyny was initially viewed by many as a feminist statement about the rejection of patriarchal definitions of womanhood. In the minds of many, androgyny is now being associated with lesbianism and homosexuality. A short afro, for example, is usually viewed as a "masculine" hairstyle. Women who tend to wear athletic clothing and tennis shoes and baseball caps when they are not participating in athletic activities are often viewed as "masculine". A woman who is deemed "masculine" is often assumed to be a lesbian.
I remember being in a store once and mistaking a man's wife for a man! I was deeply embarrassed. After apologizing profusely, I walked away interrogating myself about why her appearance led me to think that two men were standing there.
There are two vastly different concepts of the depiction of womanhood that have been embraced by women in my life span - androgyny and traditional femininity - neither of which seem to be embraced by black women to a large degree.
This blog focuses on collective examination, redefinition and redirection. Our self-definition reflects the parameters that we have given ourselves. The world takes note of those parameters and utilizes them in framing our existence. For this reason, I believe that it is empowering, critical and necessary for black women to begin to place a greater emphasis on the redefinition of black womanhood.
Many black women have accepted definitions that have been thrust upon them by black men, by white men, and by white society. Many black women have also accepted definitions of themselves that were drilled into their psyche by black women who were conditioned to accept patriarchal subjugation of their personhood.
I would like to engage in discussion about how black femininity can be redefined so that black women have taken control of the definition of black womanhood in a way that does not promote hetero-superiority and that does not allow for commodification of our sensuality.
The current issue of Ebony Magazine has a photo of Serena Williams in a bathing suit that has an intentional camera angle to display her often-discussed behind. Serena is very attractive and extremely fit. She has never been portrayed as a black woman who is well-read, well-educated, world-traveled or culturally sophisticated. Her depiction has been largely one-dimensional.
Many black women are disillusioned and demoralized by how we are repetitively being portrayed by black men who are hired by white conglomerates to depict black women through demeaning and insulting characterizations to the world. Many black women are angered by the extent that black-owned corporations that attempt to adhere to mainstream expectations of the commodification of black people. While I hear all of the gripes, I don't hear new definitions being introduced by black women that are being widely communicated.
I want to encourage intense discussion of black femininity among lesbian and heterosexual sistas so that together, we can fully examine the parameters we have adopted in relation to black womanhood and so that we will understand how the redefinition of black femininity will serve our collective objective of dismantling the prevailing over-sexualized, one-dimensional depiction of black women.
The Starting Point:
1 - Name someone who represents traditional femininity and someone who represents the definition of femininity that you are currently embracing.
2 - How were you taught about femininity as a child?
3 - How has your definition of femininity evolved?
4 - How has the depiction of white femininity impacted your definition of femininity?
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Tuesday, June 10, 2008
THE REDEFINITION OF BLACK FEMININITY
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This is a tough question for me Lisa. I look at the pictures of Alek and Grace and they make me smile because I embrace them both.
My household was a conservative one and notions of feminity weren't discussed. Much of my struggle for self-definition has involved womanhood.
I would say that my Uncle played a greater role in setting the stage for my views on feminity. He was an NOI member and he taught me that feminity was self-love and self-respect. It was carrying yourself w/grace, intelligence and humor.
He never stifled my voice even though the women in my household did. I was never scolded for speaking my mind w/him and he was always totally honest w/me. While his attitude towards other women had always been "patriarchal", he never pushed that attitude w/me strangely enough.
He is responsible in many ways for the woman I am today. If I had to pick a woman that represents both the traditional and the current model I follow, it would be my Great Gran Ollie.
She was born in 1912 and was a total fire cracker. She dressed fabulously, spoke intelligently and was ferocious about life. She LOVED life w/a spirit that I have never seen before. I adored her and still do. She died when I was 23.
She understood that there was a larger world and encouraged me to travel, see the outside, expand my mind and live life according to my rules because that's how she lived.
I believe she was a woman that was both a product of and ahead of her time. My Aunt has pictures of Gran Ollie and she always looked gorgeous and well put together.
As I've grown older and have become more comfortable in my own skin, I realize that the more I know, the more I don't know. Each woman's definition of feminity is different.
My Great Gran is the model I follow. Bessie Coleman (aviator extraordinare) is the model I follow. Women who struck out, carved their own path, were bold, intelligent, loving and passionate.
I strive to be that woman today. As far as white feminity is concerned, I have to be honest and say I haven't given it too much consideration. I look at women like Madame Curie, Simone de Beauvoir, Samantha Power, Jackie Kennedy and I admire their grace and brilliance.
Are their issues of white-skin privilige? Yes, that is so, but I don't use that as a bludgeon w/which to de-humanize them and discount their worth.
I've admired too many women of different hues to play that game and I never will.
HI Lisa,
Of all your posts, for me, this one is the most difficult. Mostly because I hardly ever think about this topic --in words in my mind.
re:black man A looking to BM -B to know how high is high.
Vision and fantasy would be key here. The use of the imagination. But I do notice that there aren't that many fiction books about black fictitious heros. I'm working on that.
HOWEVER. Having said that what about the BM who comes from the countries where the prez. is black, the lawyer is black, and the shnorrer (begger) down the street is also black? Don't that add to their influence?
Or how did BM -B get 'higher'? was it from looking at BM -C? Eventually someone in that line had to have had vision. So I don't think all is completely lost.
(1)Name someone who represents traditional femininity & one who represents the def. of fem. that I am currently embracing?
Well currently I love the women of Bat Ayin. They all wear flowy clothing, are religious, but dance -literally- to the beat of their own drums. I guess the best picture I have to show u of them are the women from the 60s, the "flower power" folks -but a little more tamed. lol
They are very natural and work the land. Working the land also makes them very strong, very toned, but not muscular. But when they are upset... oy vavoy!! lol
(2) as a child, how was fem. taught?
Well, I was told to always wear a dress or a skirt. Does that count? lol. I was a tomboy when young so I dunno.
(3) how fem. definition evolved?
Honestly, everything really started evolving or moving since I took interest in the Bible. I wanted to be like Sarah, Leah, Rachel, Yael all those women.
My relationship is probably more like Rebecca and Isaac but...
(4)how has the depiction of white fem. impacted my def.
I am not 100% sure. I DO take things from them, no doubt. And I guess the Bat Ayin girls would be considered white in most people's eyes. But I think that is only because the black def. is very limited.
"I don't hear white people saying, "now we know what is possible for white people!" when a white person makes a major achievement that is well publicized."
Well, white people don't have to because in every aspect of culture and society, this message is reinforced anyway. It's called white privilege.
I will be back later to give more thought on some of the other issues raised.
Lisa, this is a great topic. I was discussing with wm, how some black women not concerning about the fact that black women are rarely shown on women's magazines, they are now making their own rules. They are having their own publications, they are concerns about their husbands, children etc about their own projects and they realise that they don't buy into anything, which they find negative. In the blog world, we discuss our own hair make up tips, clothes, etc. Many of these ladies are married to non-black men from all over the world and not seeing themselves on covers of white magazines are the least of their problems. He felt that I was sweeping the whole issue of racism in the media under the carpet and we were suffering from white woman protectionism and he talked about the fact that there were few black women models. I asked him, in actual fact how many black women wanted to be models anyway, there were very few, the majority of black women were interested in being educated and that was from my 20 year old daughter and her friends. They want to get their university degrees and start their own businesses. BW who I am in contact with are interested in enpowering themelves financially, and they want their own publications distribute to Africa, South America, the West Indies have larger populations the rest of USA and Europe put together. Well he wasn't hearing that and he said that is why few white men approached black women, because they don't find them sexy, so I told him that if white men have to have magazines to tell that black women are sexy, they are losers, they need to see with their eyes. What about the white men who are married to black women, they don't buy into the whole media brainwashing. I think that there are two sets of black women living in the world today. The ones who go to college, get degrees, start up their own businesses, live in different countries, all over Europe and the rest of the world. They are married, have children, they choose to live their lives confidently and they don't allow the box mentality to control them and they are those who do live in the box, they maybe educated and they have the mind set of what is black and what is not. They take on the demonic mind system of the world and they get caught, suddenly they feel how they look is a burden and they are upset how they are protrayed in the media, being hard, loud, aggressive, fat and they compare themselves to other women of other ethnic groups. They worry that black men don't find them attractive and they already feel other men won't either. They become angry and bitter and accuse other women from other ethnic groups of 'taking their men' so because the statistics tells us that 70% of bw will be single and they see a ww, hw, aw or another non-black women with a black men, panic sets in and fear, because their chance of marriage is gone and this is shown on Oprah and Tyra and repeating the same statistics, Tyra is crying and saying it is hard to be a black woman and we don't have long hair like white girls, hispanic and asian girls and the whole pity party, 'It so hard to be a black woman' song starts. It must be true, because Oprah and Tyra said it and as Oprah said, 'you better listen some you black women won't be getting a black man, because there's a shortage'
'Yes Oprah' one expert agrees
and the camera shows a smiling ww. Then you get the film Soulmate and everyone is reaffirming about single black women and 70% will be single. And the brain washing continues, not helped by BET and the some sexist hip hop.
People are not interested in what is actually happening. That is why when Michelle Obama becomes the first lady, it will be a big shock for a lot of people, WW, BM, WM and BW. A lot of these people have set mind sets, BW and BM are going to be angry, because they would privately say 'sellouts' and they are not real black people anyway. WW will be angry, because they are not the centre of attention and WM would be confused, how did this all happen?, because some of them think that they are the great 'I am God himself' and they have not ordained it. Now discussing this, I have never realised until this point, what Barack and Michelle Obama and they coming this far to win the Democratic nomination, is bigger than big. The billions involved in keeping the image of black women a certain way. Some of the hip hop industry, corporate america is sponsoring the videos and video vixins and it was they who supported Hiliary Clinton. This is far bigger that we can ever know that is why the owner of the BET and Jessie Jackson are appealing to Barack to have Hiliary Clinton as his VP. I honestly believe bw are a force and people are dead dead scared. The black women who are already living an expansive life, they will be more attacks, more vile, vicious behaviour and more bitterness.
1 - Name someone who represents traditional femininity and someone who represents the definition of femininity that you are currently embracing.
Bessie Coleman, she fly a plane and she represent expansiveness and living.
2 - How were you taught about femininity as a child?
My mother, she was from Guyana, and she was a dress maker and she made my clothes, she would comb my hair and I would wear ribbons and I have come to realise why I was picked on so much because I was a black girl being a girl, white girls could only be the girls, black girls even at that age had to be their mammies and look after.
I had a lot of photographes of black women in Guyana, wearing lovely dresses and if you look at the old new reels of the West Indians coming to Britain in the 1950s, on the boat Windrush, many of the girls wore gloves and lovely dresses, they dressed far better than the white people in the UK and they dresses like ladies.
3 - How has your definition of femininity evolved?
I think after I got divorced, I realised that my husband hated me being feminine, I was pretty to marry, but I became the 'old fowl' after I got married. After my divorce, I started to embrace my femininity again, there is nothing wrong with being intelligent and having nice fingernails and speaking softly. Laughing and giggling, all that I supressed with I was married.
4 - How has the depiction of white femininity impacted your definition of femininity?
Being very silly, empty headed and the mind games. I have very so few female friends, because I can't stand that silly, empty headed and playing mind games.
1 - Name someone who represents traditional femininity and someone who represents the definition of femininity that you are currently embracing.
Hmm, one of my aunts represents traditional femininity and my uncle treated her in a respectful, loving manner. He took good care of her and their children and in return, she was able to play her role. I guess that a woman on TV who I'm most like in my relationship with men is the character "Claire Huxtable" from the Cosby Show. Claire is flirtatious, smiles a lot, never abrasive with her man, sensual, comforting, loving, understanding, nurturing with both her husband and children, etc. I'm the same way with my husband and children because I can "afford" to be that way since I feel protected, safe, and know I'll get support from my husband, extended family, and my social circle. I notice that many middle class African women that I'm often around are the same way, and when I was with my Nigerian ex-husband, I was the same way because he set up a safety zone for me, even when we lived in Nigeria. However, when I lived in the South Bronx and Harlem during periods of my life, I noticed that the sistas were very different. They were often tense, abrasive, defensive, distrustful, and instantly ready to 'throw down.' They had to be that way for self-preservation. I'm not distrustful, defensive, aggressive, or instantly abrasive because I grew up in a rural sparsely populated, safe community, where people were cordial, smiled at each other, greeted each other, and tended to trust each other.
You didn't mention the social environment that some black women must navigate and that's a BIGGIE with the issue fo femininity because I'm sure you know of the incidence of rape, other sexual abuse, and inappropriate sexual encounters, etc. that a large percentage of black females experience as young females. I think some bw play down their femininity, sensuality, and natural instinct to be nurturing because they feel unsafe. After hunger and thirst, safety is next on list of needs that must be satisfied for human beings to function properly.
2 - How were you taught about femininity as a child?
I learned to be pleasing and responsive to men if they behave properly towards me. The most influential women in my family: grandmom, mom, and 2 aunts were loving, nurturing, respectuful, responsive, and performed the traditional female role towards bm, or at least towards bm who behaved appropriately.
3 - How has your definition of femininity evolved?
Actually, I don't think about femininity. I just do me, and I've never gotten complaints. My current husband is a feminist and believes strongly in equality btween the genders, and my ex-husband was about as feminist as an African man can be. LOL! He was very fair-minded. At the same time, both of these men are very masculine men in the typical sense. I tend to attract brainy, broadminded men. So I KNOW that it is entirely possible for a man and woman to have a loving, fulfilling relationship without either one subjugating their important needs.
4 - How has the depiction of white femininity impacted your definition of femininity.
Honestly, I must have been impacted by some aspects of white femininity by virtue of growing up in this country and all, but I hope it hasn't penetrated too much. Despite the fact that ww are supposedly high up on the social ladder, many of them seem to be afraid. Anyway, I know that my femininity was mostly influenced by the women that I mentioned above.
One of my white sister-in-laws said to me that she admires bw because bw are outspoken and seem to feel free to say what we want. Now maybe she wanted to tell me off about something--LOL!--but she didn't say this in a nasty way, so this surprised me because it indicated that she doesn't feel free to express herself freely. I pointed out to her that this is generally a stereotype about bw--that we don't say a LOT of things that we think and feel. I guess the grass just looks greener.
I do think that some bw need to tone it down about SOME things, like that bw's "strength" thing. That needs to be explained in a positive way from a bw's viewpoint and then spread because our "strength" has been turned into a negative in some quarters. I personally try to stay away from describing bw that way since I know it'll be used against us.
Piggybacking off of Evia, when a woman is with a man who is a protector, it is easy to let ones guard "down" a bit more. As a single woman, defending myself I am more aggressive, terse and "mean" and it is about self-preservation.
I love what you said in the very first paragraph. Most people don't LISTEN, they are too busy trying to formulate their argument and rip someone apart instead bothering to ask, "What do you mean by that?"
I know one small way I have evolved is to not be afraid to be sexy or appreciate my desirability. Yes, I'm smart and I'm tough but I'm attractive and there is nothing wrong with me enjoying and playing that up too.
First off, I'd like to say that to me being a woman has only a little to do with physical appearance, but about what's on the inside. To answer your questions:
1. Someone who represents traditional femininity is my grandmother. Shr is 82 and still serves all of the men in our family first. Someone who represents the kind of femininity that I embrace is Siter Souljah. She is definitely someone who I looked up to as I was coming into womanhood.
2. My mother always told me and my sister to be independent, to do well in school so that when we grew up, we wouldn't have to depend on a man for anything. She also told us to go to school before we got married and had kids. As a young girl, I think I thought of femininity as being weak and passive, a doormat per se. I rebelled against that. I saw my mother dress up all the time and wear heels, but she never wore makeup, except for lipstick. She always told us that if you have a pretty face and nice skin, you don't need makeup. I don't know if that answers the question.
3. My definition of femininity has evolved from childhood in that I now view womanhood as being multdimensional. U can be intelligent and cute. Just because you love books does not mean that you don't also love clothes and makeup. When I was a child, I thought that if you did one, you couldn't do the other. I also think that femininity and womanhood has a lot to do with how a woman carries herself and how she relates to her family and community.
4. To be honest, white femininity has not affected me even though I spent the majority of my scool years with white girls. I always understood that I was different from them and therefore, I never considered them to be a model for me.
Just my thoughts.
Peace and solidarity,
Tasha
Lisa,
This is why I love stopping by here it's such great discussions going on and thought provoking examination. It's like a mini-course in black feminist thought and life. *lol* All the blogs are so provoking I have to just chose one because you know I could pontificate all day and lord knows if I did I would not get one thing done...one day when i retire I am going to pontificate all day in the exotic locations of the diaspora! Anyway here are my answers and thoughts
1 - Name someone who represents traditional femininity and someone who represents the definition of femininity that you are currently embracing.
My grandmother represents traditional femininity. Maybe because I am from the south, but I come from a pretty feminine family. My grandmother believes in taking care of your man and even though she worked when I was little she always cooked, cleaned, and was a woman to her man.
I really can't say. I guess I would say maybe Oprah/Beyonce. Don't laugh. I would say that because these are women who are strong business women they are providing for themselves but they are UNDENIABLLY WOMEN. I say Oprah because she has managed to be Oprah with out emasculating Steadman in my eyes. I mean while its apparent He probably isn't working no one calls him a deadbeat or a mooch or any of those things we might call him if Oprah was Oprah Jenkins living with her boyfriend who worked at the auto shop while she was a CEO.
I say Beyonce because to me she is extremely feminine however if you break things down and look at things she is running the show. She is doing it for herself and making rules for the game, however she had no problem being all those womanly things that most black women associate with weakness. She works to be the best at what she does and she is the best, she is providing for her whole family all the things the are able to do flow through her, blessed to be a blessing. At the same time its an AMAZING pressure on her to keep those rivers flowing. You many not like her music or her persona or anything like that but you can not knock her hustle or drive. She shows young women they can be independent and successful with out sacrificing being a woman. I don't know maybe its because she from the south.
2 - How were you taught about femininity as a child?
I was taught by my grandmothers, mother, and her sisters and my father sister. For me it was great because they were all different types of femininity. I think it allowed me to pick and chose what I wanted to be. I know how to take care of man because of that. I remember my aunt (paternal) told me once no matter how high you get and no matter how much you make ALWAYS make sure there is something that you always do for your husband to let him know you care weather its tying his tie or check his clothes before the big event, because that is part of being a woman showing the ones she loves she cares. At the time I thought in my young feminist mind whatever but now I understand what she meant by that.
3 - How has your definition of femininity evolved?
Man has it ever evolved as you know in my piece about the man I love I wrote a lot about how he makes it okay for me to be all those feminine things I rejected in my youth. I have always been feminine on the outside I am super curvy and have long embraced my coke bottle shape and heels, even though they make me tower over many men since I'm 5'10" . But because of that femininity on the outside and rebelled against being that on the inside. Always been tough and hard as to not let anyone think I was some girlie girl! Now I revel in being a woman I love men who I can be submissive to in the right way and no longer find being "weak" weak. I am not hard with people at work I smile and am always friendly and have realized I can be all those things and still be respected for my brain and knowledge in the business. I love where I have evolved to and I love I am evolving even more each and every day. I am so happy that I am understanding that there is strength in embracing your femininity.
4 - How has the depiction of white femininity impacted your definition of femininity?
When I was young I decided I didn't want to be like my mother or her sisters. I decided I wanted to be independent and I rejected a lot of the things that were traditionally feminine. I wanted to be like successful men, at least on the inside. I thought being a wife was weak. I always said I didn't want to be married...surprisingly when I did get married I loved that part of marriage the taking care of home part. I started to realize that being a woman in the traditional sense didn't mean you would have to sacrifice being strong, intelligent or successful. I realized that a Michelle Obama archetype, professionally successful wife and mother could exist.
I never embraced the depiction of white femininity I always gravitated towards the white feminist depiction or the black woman.
I think that growing up in the south where I watch many black women live the white depiction of white femininity looking for a husband. There wasn't a rejection of those things in my family. They were strong women but they knew there place took the backseat to their husbands and were very much feminine in that way. I rejected that so long and now am coming full circle and appreciate who they were as women in my adulthood. I no longer scoff at a woman who cooks a meal for a man she likes or submits to a man in marriage. I understand that even in submission with the right man there is strength.
Ok enough rambling I am not even sure if this added to the conversation or is exactly what you were looking for, but I enjoyed sharing. Thanks!!
-OG
Welcome Danielle!
Thank you so much for stopping by and sharing your thoughts!
It is so important for each of us to reach a place where we feel that we CAN adopt our own definition of femininity!
It sounds as though you are already at that place.
It's emotionally healthy to reject white supremacist conditioning. Too many black women internalize what everyone is saying about us, and how white America is portraying us and how black men are rejecting us...ENOUGH!
When will we stop internalizing every darn thing that is put upon us?
Is it healthy?
So many black women feel that OTHERS control our definition! It's not true! When we decide WE control it, a lot of new steps will be taken as a result of that collective reckoning.
It is interesting that you mentioned your Uncle's influence. I can say that black men in my life influenced my concept of femininity as well.
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
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Welcome Miriam!
Thanks so much for contributing to this dialogue!
You mentioned the women of Bat Ayin. Very interesting!
I also thought it was interesting that you mentioned women in the Bible as examples of femininity.
I would have to think about which woman in the Bible represents the definition of femininity that I currently adopt. Vashti?
Many White Catholic girls are taught to look to the Virgin Mary as an example of one to emulate. Many Catholics have made comments that lead me to believe that they felt the Virgin Mary was sinless and THAT her sinlessness was why she was chosen by God to be the mother of Jesus. Many even see her as "Mother of Heaven". I do believe that many Catholics would mention Virgin Mary as the ideal.
Your comments have caused me to become interested in writing about Jael and her depiction of femininity.
Question for married ladies
Do you feel that married women change their definitions of femininity after being married over a period of time in order to adapt to the definition of femininity that their husbands are most accepting of? Or do you feel that the wives inform the husband's definition of femininity?
I am looking forward to discussing this more!
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
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Welcome Anxious Black Woman!
I look forward to hearing more.
You always have my wheels turning.
This blog attracts so many women with so many different life experiences and I am constantly hearing another point of view and I am grateful for these exchanges.
Help me understand what you are saying about how white privilege provides an affirmation of achievement and that somehow achievement is expected by whites. I don't find that to be true with whites who are in the lower socioeconomic classes or whites who are in the "underclass". Do you?
I look forward to hearing more from you! Thank you so much for adding to this conversation!
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
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Welcome Felicity!
Thanks so much for coming by my neighborhood!
It is so remarkable that you mentioned that black girls were supposed to be the mammies for the white girls and that they did not get to BE girls!
Wow.
I saw that in depiction in movies and I was horrified by it. Utterly horrified to see that. "Miss Katie, Miss Katie!" Oh please. The hidden envy of the white girl that they were subservient to was just nauseating to watch...
Because I grew up in a town that had no black girls, I never saw black girls being mammies to white girls.
I wonder if there are some black women in this country who were told by the black women in their families that they had to be mammies.
Some black people even named their own children "Mamie"! Just imagine.
If we look at the depiction of mammies, they were asexual, rotund, jolly, nurturing and ingratiating. They were sarcastic, course, and not appealing to men.
In so many photos of black elderly women, we see the prevalence of the "mammy" image.
We don't want to say that becuase it seems insulting. I hear elderly women using terms like "house dress" and "house shoes"...these are the words of those who spent their lives as domestics and caretakers. Is it a bad thing? No... only if they believed that they could not BE anything else.
It is interesting that you mentioned that your husband did not encourage traditional femininity. Was this due to his own upbringing? I found that to be surprising.
When I hear black women say that white men do not look at us, I chuckle and think to myself, "you have not been around too many white men in social settings"!
White men may act one way in a professional setting because they have to act disinterested in us to spare themselves any lawsuits, but just get them in a social environment where they feel comfortable and a different side of them emerges!
I noticed that white boys in my school were interested in me when I was a teenager and when I became a woman, I noticed white men were interested in me.
You are right about the "Soulmate" video. I saw the trailer for that video. Many black women in the church expect to be alone for the rest of their lives! They won't verbalize it but in their conversations, I hear it ALL of the time and I see the discouragement and resignation on their faces when they discuss black men.
I see many black women being angry at black men because black men are marrying non-black women. They direct their anger at black men because they are saying to themselves, "I am a catch! I should be married!"
That sense of entitlement of a black husband breeds feelings of resentment towards THOSE that they feel have denied them what they should have - marriage - and the persons who have denied them of it - black men. No one says so but when I mentioned it, the room falls silent.
Black women need to get a clue and get it quickly: They do not OWN black men! Black men do not feel obligated to black women in any way, shape or form.
You have given me a lot to think about.
Please feel welcome to share more about how the culture in Guyana has shaped your perception of black womanhood. I am so interested in learning more.
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
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Welcome Evia!
Thank you for all that you have added to this dialogue!
You said:
"However, when I lived in the South Bronx and Harlem during periods of my life, I noticed that the sistas were very different. They were often tense, abrasive, defensive, distrustful, and instantly ready to 'throw down.' They had to be that way for self-preservation."
Great point!
I must say that I have primarily noticed that demeanor when I am around black women who did not grow up feeling truly protected and looked after by men.
It seems that these sistas believe THIS is how black women need to be...but they are very wrong... this is NOT how all black women need to be.
I never tied that demeanor to the necessity of self-preservation. Thank you for pointing this out!
I think I saw it as anger and woundedness manifesting itself at many levels.
You said:
"After hunger and thirst, safety is next on list of needs that must be satisfied for human beings to function properly."
This is so true!
When we look at Maslow's Need Hierarchy below we see why there are some black women who have spent most of their lives at the LOWEST level of the social needs hierarchy (level one):
Level One
Biological and Physiological needs - air, food, drink, shelter, warmth, sex, sleep, etc.
Level Two
Safety needs - protection from elements, security, order, law, limits, stability, etc.
Level Three
Belongingness and Love needs - work group, family, affection, relationships, etc.
Level Four
Esteem needs - self-esteem, achievement, mastery, independence, status, dominance, prestige, managerial responsibility, etc.
Level Five
Cognitive needs - knowledge, meaning, etc.
Level Six
Aesthetic needs - appreciation and search for beauty, balance, form, etc.
Level Seven
Self-Actualization needs - realising personal potential, self-fulfillment, seeking personal growth and peak experiences.
(Footnote for the educators who are ready to send me an email right now! The original needs hierarchy chart had five levels. The chart above was the 1970 adapted model and it has seven levels.)
You said:
"I do think that some bw need to tone it down about SOME things, like that bw's "strength" thing."
Please elaborate on this because I agree that we need to examine this "strong woman" persona that many black women feel is vital to project.
As a minister, I can tell you that many of the people (men and women) who work the hardest at projecting self-reliance and strength are often some of the most broken and wounded people inside who want to talk about how trapped they are within the fascade.
It is so funny that you mentioned your Nigerian ex-husband! I will be going to Ghana at the end of the summer. I will be there for the remainder of the year. I am bracing myself for the "transition" I will have to make in Ghanaian society since women are expected to behave very differently than black women behave here. I was in Ghana many years ago but at the time, I was not taking note of societal expectations. I was being the "I could care less!" type of American! *LOL*
I've been told that black women from America get over there in Ghana and turn the place OUT the second a Ghanaian man gets out of order with them! *LOL* Why is that? Why do we feel we MUST take it all the way there? Oh my.
I am learning so much from this conversation!
Thank you so much for sharing so generously here!
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
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Welcome Symphony!
It's so nice of you to stop by! I don't usually see you in my neighborhood and I would love to have you in these discussions!
Someone told me last week that I have a "deep" blog and only the sistas with PhDs come to my blog!! That is just so wrong! LOL*
This blog is like my livingroom...women are relaxed and we all sit around with our glasses of iced tea and just share wisdom. I didn't even put my resume details on my blog because this blog is not about Lisa's "profile" to the world...we're all sistas here...equals...sharing about life and strategizing about our future.
You made a great point about how we behave when we are protecteed. I always felt protected. My father was a protector and that was what was modeled for me by ALL MEN in my family so I expect to always be protected by men. I realize that black women are targeted in this society so I don't walk through life as though I'm skipping through Candyland.
There IS still a part of me that will not be in relationship with men who do not understand their role as protectors. I honestly do not think that many black women are teaching THEIR sons to be protectors of the family and protectors of women. Many black feminists will roll their eyes and feel that I am condoning male patriarchy by saying that...really I am not.
I'm so happy you wanted to stop by my place! Feel free to return and share as often as you'd like!
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
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Welcome Tasha212!
Thanks for stopping by!
I agree with you.
Like you, I never felt that white women were the standard for ANYTHING... my father made sure I fully understood that! *LOL*
I have friends who have told me that they did believe that white people were the standard. They were taught to believe that all white people were rich and all white people were privileged and upscale. It is outlandish.
Years ago, one white woman at work actually told me: "I feel uncomfortable with you because I get the feeling that you believe white people are beneath you." This was a white woman whose family was clearly from a trailer park and she was the first person in her family to have a degree. I'm serious. I didn't even respond to her class inferiority. I just looked at her and said, "Would you like to share more? Because if not, I'll get back to reading my email." I think she was expecting me to start apologizing and say "oh no! no!" {shaking my head}
What you mentioned about black womanhood being tied to sacrificing our needs for others is so apparent to me when I hear my sistas talking.
I was at a blog two or three weeks ago and women were talking about having careers AND doing domestic chores for their families. I was thinking "oh nooooo can do!" I have no desire to try to do everything. I don't wear a red S cape...THAT is not what black womanhood consists of.
I wrote a post in April about the resentment that some sistas have when seeing the black men in ministry with a team of helpers waiting on them. "Why are all of those black women catering to the men?" they scowl.
I say in my post: "That's not even the question to be asked! The question is WHY do you insist on doing everything yourself and NOT asking for help?"
My question to all of the ladies here is this;
If so many black women were taught to put others' needs first HOW has that impacted/crippled our readiness for activism?
Symphony, I am glad to hear you say that being intellectual does not mean being less feminine...
Few black women in the Academy represent traditional femininity and I used to hear the black male profs saying that the black women faculty were "some of the manliness women this side of the hemisphere". I felt that was an insult.
I have a friend whose husband tells her what to wear. He wants her to wear dresses every day. She's never seen without make up in public. I wear dresses every day because I like them, but I can't imagine feeling that I had to do look a certain way in order to align with my husband's definition of what a woman looks like.
You are a mom. How SHOULD black women teach black girls about definining femininity for themselves and not being so quick to adopt the Estee Lauder or Chanel depiction of femininity?
Feel welcome to continue sharing! I have a feeling we will be in this discussion for a while!
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
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Welcome OG!
Thank you so much for wanting to share your thoughts!
It is so funny that you said that this blog is a mini-course in feminism!
That is funny! *LOL*
I have been asked online if I was ever a women's studies prof! *LOL*
I chuckle whenever anyone thinks I am a feminist...or a womanist! I have never been either one. I am clearly saying something that resonate with feminists and womanists because they often tell me that I "seem" to be one or the other!
I found it interesting that you said you thought being a wife was weak.
Wow. Share more about that.
You said:
I understand that even in submission with the right man there is strength.
I agree with that.
Please share more for all who are listening to this conversation and aren't commenting.
You mentioned Michelle Obama and I keep feeling that she is playing a "role" right now. We are not seeing the real Michelle. We are seeing the Michelle who is being coached and packaged. She is trying NOT to be threatening. I understand that the Obama team is full of white advisors who are telling this black couple how to appeal to the 86% of this country who matter most to this campaign....white America.
I also have a feeling that the stylist that Michelle has hired to select her wardrobe is a white woman who happens to have a lot of admiration for Jackie O's stylist. I have a feeling that her nannies are also white women. (I could be wrong!)
One thing that I didn't mention in this discussion is the influence that the stylists we hire tend to have on the image that we project of femininity. There aren't many black stylists so if a black woman wants to hire a stylist, she will usually have to hire a white one.
I hired the stylist that I currently have about 7 1/2 years ago. She decides what I wear, what color, what it looks like because she designs my wardrobe. I have drawn something that I wanted to wear and she's made the garment for me but I don't do that often. I can see how she has influenced my "packaging". Many of her other clients are women who are in the public eye who are viewed as powerful and influential.
I think Condi Rice's stylist is a white woman.
You mentioned your height...and I am viewed as being a "tall" woman although I am really not "tall" like Venus Williams is tall. Do you think that taller women have a hard time "looking" feminine? I notice some of the WNBA sistas and ...um....well...let me just not even finish that sentence. I'll let you take it from here and pontificate!
Thanks again for all that you have shared!
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
This is a very interesting topic. I am glad I took time to read it. I may not answer all the questions you asked but I would like to talk about these two
1. How were you taught about femininity as a child? Part of what I was taught as a child was that: femininity is not playing football, or playing with boys, or to have it in mind that one day you will be married and become someone else property. I dared not whistle as a child because that has being perceived to be only for boys!!! Women that I watched when I was growing were there to do the wish of the men unconditionally…
2. How has your definition of femininity evolved? I was really an independent minded child and I was too curious to accept the norms in the society. I asked myself countless questions and I concluded within me that “ I am more than what they wanted me to be, I am the only one that can limit myself” I am a non-conformist to so many beliefs in Nigeria we I was born and still live.
We just have to embrace change and see a lot of things in new light!!!
Welcome StandTall!
Thank you for adding to this conversation!
I noticed that when I was in your country many, many years ago, the Nigeria woman were very conformist (outwardly) in their acceptance of defined gender roles. I noticed that Nigerian men perceived certain behaviors as being "unfeminine" for a woman: being aggressive or being assertive, being confrontational with a man, challenging a man's thought processes, or showing high intellect. (Am I generalizing Nigerian men? If so, please correct me on that! I don't mean to imply ALL Nigerian men are xzy...I am just sharing my observations on the ones that I encountered while I was living there.)
You said two things that will make many black women in this country shake their heads:
"...one day you will be married and become someone else property.
This is a mindset that I noticed that many Nigerian men had exhibited that I had met. They articulated a belief of "ownership" of their wives.
I am certain that the depiction of femininity was not choice of the wife to make for herself but the choice of her husband.
"Women that I watched when I was growing were there to do the wish of the men unconditionally…"
I noticed this as well.
My question for you is this:
Do you think that the definition of femininity among most African changes depending on the tribal culture, or the country?
Thank you so much for stopping by!
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
Dear Lisa, I can assure you that you werent making any assumption about what you observed when you were in Nigeria.
My church memeber told me an incident she witness just yesterday. A man saw his supposed wife and gave her hot slaps for abandoning him and taking their 5 children with her. She was embarrassed and molested. No one came to her rescue. Instead the people that had gathered around when she was being slapped simply told her to go back to hwr husband. Adding words like "prostitute,why woudl you leave your husband". I am still yet to recover from my disappointment and schok that in this a ge and time, people could still be so unsupportive on an abused woman!!!
To answer your question: I do believe that the definition of feminity had changed to some certain extent but a lot of people still frown at women that feel comfortable looking masculine just for example. The comment you hear is that they want to be a man. And I just feel that is how they want to be.They are not less of a woman just becuase they have got a particular sense of expressing themselves.
I will like us to discuss more on this but first and foremost, let me know if I am asnwering your question correctly.
Welcome StandTall!
Thank you so much for adding to the conversation!
Women who attempt to look "masculine" in this country are often assumed to be lesbian...even if they are still teenagers! The term used here for a woman who dresses like a man or walks like a man is "butch". It is NOT a compliment to be called that! In lesbian circles, the term is not meant to be an insult.
Dressing like a man is still frowned upon but NOT to the extent that it would be in some African countries.
One thing that I am preparing for when I get to Ghana is that I will be required to speak less and to wait for men to speak in conversations before speaking. (I have been warned about this!) I was told that if there is a social setting and men and women are in the social setting and men are discussing an issue, a woman should not jump into the conversation and start addressing the men with her opinions.
Whenever I am around African men, they always ask about my marital status and when they find out that I am not married, they ask why. It is unusual for men in Africa to meet women who CHOSE not to be married. The expectation that they convey is that ALL women have to marry.
You mentioned a woman being openly abused by her husband. How prevalent is domestic abuse? Do women accept it as part of married life - or do they view it as a crime?
Thank again for stopping by my neighborhood!
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
Dear Lisa,
Though the awareness has nade it knowing by some women that beaying of a wife is an abuse but there is still so much work to be doen in this area.
People jsut know about it but in reality they still feel women should be beating if she appears rude or does not do what she was asked to do by her husband hence the "what did you do to your husband question". Our police force would even ask same question instead of protecting the owman. Or they will simply tell her that it's a domestic affair go back to your husband.
Pls when you get to Ghana speak freely and allow no one to limit you!!!
I am not surprised you were asked if you were married. That is the issue around here. Remainin single is considered a taboo. Just imagine!!!
Dear Lisa,
I know this post is almost a year old (and so this comment is about a year late!), but I'm so intrigued by this subject that I wanted to respond... for my own enlightenment if nothing else.
1 - I'm having a hard time thinking of someone who embraces "traditional" femininity, because I'm not sure I even know how to define that. While I love all of the women who helped raise me as a child, I realize they never seemed that feminine to me. They often fit themselves into the "Mammy" archetype, if you will, caring for others, not taking much thought or care for their own appearance. I think the person who represents the kind of feminity I'm embracing now is my father's cousin -- in a family of caretakers, she was never afraid to put on a dress, fix her hair just right and walk around with an air of "fabulousness." She was an educated and working woman too, and more or less rejected the notion of looking after everyone. There was usually some conflict between herself and other family members, but she always fascinated me when I was younger. Now that I'm answering these questions, I'm realizing that her version of feminity is what I've come to adopt as an adult.
2 - I wasn't really taught femininity as a child, not until I was 13. My mother, while present in the home, was a bit detached from my upbringing as a young girl. We had a family friend -- we'll call her J -- with a daughter who was the same age as me, and J ALWAYS made sure her daughter looked well-put-together and feminine. She did that with me, too, when I was left in her care from time to time, but it didn't seem natural when I was younger. My mother didn't take special attention to my appearance the way J did with her daughter, and so I came to feel a bit inferior, and I believed on some level that it wasn't my place to look pretty or carefully dressed.
The most pivotal point was the summer when I turned 13. I was staying with my aunts for the summer, and they pretty much gave me a makeover. :o) These were the same aunts that I saw as frumpy, as "mammys," but the fiercely encouraged me to embrace my body, my looks and my feminity. The entire summer was spent experimenting with hairstyles and buying new clothes, and at one point, one of my aunts started calling me "The Fox." :) You should have seen the reaction of the kids when I returned home from school.
Let me add -- I know much of this answer focuses on the outward reflection of feminity. That's because as children, my brother and I weren't taught specific gender roles in the household (except that I never took out the garbage or mowed the lawn). My father cooked, my mom fixed things with tools, and we never taught to filter ourselves according to our gender.
3 - I'm learning now that being feminine involves more than wearing dresses (though, admittedly, that's probably my favorite part, lol). Now, through observation and reading, I'm learning how femininity can be expressed through conversation, actions and body language. I enjoy being a listener (though I have to stop myself from becoming wrapped up in other people's problems), and I've realized there's a power in being charming and polite. (You get more bees with honey than vinegar, is the old saying.) I'm inquisitive, but never interrogative, and when I'm in a relationship, I take special care to be a supportive presence.
(I've also learned that when in a relationship, I can ask for things to be done for me. Imagine my surprise!)
4 - Lately, I find myself constantly examining the aesthetics of white femininity. It intrigues me. The aesthetics of Latina and Asian femininity intrigue me as well. This is because, as you mentioned before, many black women aren't taught to take pride in "being a woman." Again, this all deals with the outward -- I'm still learning about how internal characteristics relate to femininity.
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