A blog guest read my post, "Black Women and the Power We Possess"and sent a note to me to share some feedback. When I opened my email and started crafting a reply, I realized I should address this topic on my blog and open a discussion. I was asked a question:
"How is power defined by black women and how does that definition differ from how power is defined by black men? How does that definition differ from how power is defined by society?"
I will share my observations and then allow all of the wise women who visit this blog to share their own observations. I have written about my upbringing in several posts on this blog. I believe that my upbringing has fostered a definition in my mind about the acquisition of power. I don't think that there is one definition of power that all black women have accepted.
Black women often assume that we have similar ideologies - until we tour the black blogosphere and begin to engage with other black women who have been taught very differently than we have.
We have been taught about the acquisition of power and the transfer of power and the manipulation of power from our engagement with society. We have been taught to define power by interpreting how our parents operated within the racial, social and political infrastructure. We learned from our parents how to engage with systems of power, and our earliest experiences with power have significantly shaped what we have become.
My father showed me that engagement with systems of power required that we become subversive and confrontational. While I grew up with a large dose of white culture within the town we lived in, my father was good friends with many people who were at the forefront of the black power movement. My father modeled insider activism. Having absorbed that consistent example, I became keenly aware of the mechanisms that must be developed in order to become successful with insider activism.
I also learned at a young age that power was directly tied to the acquisition of educational and economic advantage. Seeing a white maid who lived in a different socioeconomic segment of America and who did not have the level of education of my parents taught me that white skin alone did not guarantee societal advancement. Many black people still have not digested this truth. Many black people are deluded into believing that white privilege confers more advantage than it actually does. Drive by a few white mobile home neighborhoods (also called trailer parks) and then tell me how empowered those white folks seem to you!
At a young age, I learned that leveraging the influence of other people was directly tied to power. My parents cultivated relationships with people who had broad influence in many segments of society. I understood while I was still in elementary school that the white maid was scrubbing the bathroom floor on her knees to make a living because she had no network of influence to capitalize upon. Without a network of influence, she had no access to structures of influence that could elevate her. Black women have deluded themselves into believing that white women are highly prized in the social hierarchy of America. That assumption is only partially true. In reality, white women are viewed as a commodity within the white supremacist structure. Just take a look at the advertising that white corporations produce and how white advertising firms consistently depict white women as ornaments and props.
I was taught that power was defined by:
1 - Educational AND economic advantage (notice I did not say attainment)
2 - Leverage of influence and position
3 - Self-directed access to those who dominated influence in particular segments of society
4 - Manufactured dependency
5 - Rewriting the rules of engagement
Many black people think that simply attaining a comparable educational status to those with perceived power will grant them a measure of power. They are very wrong. When they don't find that they have received the same measure of power as white people with the same level of education, they cry racism or sexism. Often, they are only partially right about that accusation. Educational attainment is not sufficient; the education must be used as an advantage over others in a manner that produces dependency upon your education. Only when it is used as an advantage can you wield authentic power from the acquisition of the commodity of education.
Many black people think that merely attaining a certain position will give them influence in their sphere. It is only partially true. When they find that they don't have the level of influence that they perceived would be theirs, they cry racism and sexism. Often, they are only partially right about that accusation. Attaining a position is not sufficient; the position must be used to channel the transfers of power to oneself from those who are power brokers. White people do not hand over reigns of power and they don't readily share their influence. They never will do this, because they understand that it would be counter-productive to the reinforcement of white supremacist structures.
Witness how white America has made it clear to Barack Obama that he only has their support as long as he represents what they choose he can represent and as long as he does what they want a "good black" to do. A "good black", as we have seen, quickly denounces black truth-bearers and quickly separates from anyone who threatens white America with ideologies that force them to confront the wretchedness that their own race has wrought in this country and in the world.
Author of White Like Me: Reflection On Race From A Privileged Son, Tim Wise recently observed that: "White presidential candidates are not asked to transcend race and the underlying message is that being black is something to graduate from."
Oh how naive it is to assume that a title given by someone with influence will automatically bring influence for the title holder! Many black clergy women believed that a piece of paper would confer influence within their denomination. We now find that we are paper-holders with second-class status in the priesthood. How bitter is the truth serum we must swallow in accepting that a title is not directly connected to the attainment of influence. Manufactured authority is not directly connected to the attainment of influence either. How were we deluded into believing it would be?
In our parents' generation, there were many public demonstrations of black solidarity in marching. I believe that this method of impacting social change has lost its impact. Black people must begin to consistently wield influence within segments of society that produce dependency within the masses. Every segment of society has a sphere where influence is parceled out and where influence is choreographed. Black people need to have access to that segment - and to infiltrate that segment by their own design. Self-directed access is very different than permitted access. If you have access to power brokers or influence holders because you were granted permission to be included, then you really don't have authentic influence within that sphere at all.
Black people who assume that access to power structures should be our ultimate goal have not fully understood the landscape of societal influence in its entirety.
White supremacist structures are fortified by fostering manufactured dependency. The reason why I used the term "manufactured" dependency is because the establishment of power is rooted in the "illusion" of dependency which produces the self-actualization of persistent subjugation. There are people who believe that they are dependent on me, therefore I can wield a level of power and influence within their sphere. I know that they are not dependent upon me to the extent that they believe that they are. As long as they believe in the extent of their dependency then it is their belief that engenders my level of control and influence.
Black people are still attempting to understand the rules of engagement within a white supremacist structure. Minister Louis Farrakhan is a threat to white America - not because he is a demagogue - but because they know how closely he has studied the rules of engagement in white supremacist structures. White America fears him because they do not know how he will utilize the counter-intelligence he has acquired. What many black people know - that many white people fail to see - is that Minister Farrakhan is inflammatory in public speeches in order to cause the media to focus on his words rather than his organization's subversive methods of dismantling the white supremacist structure. Minister Farrakhan uses the tactic of a pyromaniac - he sets a fire and is gone by the time the firemen show up to address the blaze. They spend their time at the blaze while he is off to execute the next fire. It is all intended to produce a distraction from the primary objective that has already been unfolding. Farrakhan puts the national spotlight on his speeches and uses the media fallout that results as a political decoy. In their underestimation of the level of sophistication that Minister Farrakhan has employed, White America has failed to understand how frequently he sets media traps. It's quite amusing to watch. I am not praising Minister Farrakhan. I am making a key observation about the tactics that he uses to launch attacks on the white supremacist structure that he despises with deep passion.
For decades, the Nation of Islam has had an extensive recruitment system established within the corrections system. Using the institutions within the corrections system for the training and indoctrination of disenfranchised black men works well for the Nation of Islam. They have millions of black men available to listen to ideologies that cause the disenfranchised to feel empowered. These black men are usually angry at "the system" and therefore, more easily indoctrinated into new patterns of thinking and reasoning that validate (and reward) their anger. We watched the indoctrination of a black criminal into a black nationalist in Spike Lee's film "X".
You don't see the members of the Nation of Islam recruiting men in the ghettos because the prison system is now their recruitment headquarters and training center. I also believe that there are N.O.I. members who deliberately place themselves into the corrections system in order to serve as recruiters among the inmate population. The government has housed millions of prospective soldiers for the Nation of Islam. All the Nation of Islam has to do is to begin their indoctrination in-house, and then activate the sleeper cells when these men are released from prison.
For hundreds of years, we have witnessed that the banishment and annihilation of black men has been a societal goal in diminishing the collective advancement of black America. White America has already understood what black women fail to grasp - they can not carry the black race on their backs without becoming broken.
There are more black men in captivity now than there were in slavery. There is a huge increase in the grant funding of black fetus destruction (called abortion by some) in nonprofit "unplanned pregnancy resolution centers" (called fetus slaughterhouses by some). In the past 35 years, there have been twice as many voluntary fetus destruction procedures than there have been live births by black women and there are 1,452 fetuses of black women voluntarily destroyed every day. Planned Parenthood was highly criticized in the media for accepting donations from whites who called their offices to ask that their donations be directed to abortion clinics that serviced the black community. (Do a Google search and see for yourself.)
As much as we discuss the prevalence of out-of-wedlock births within the black community, black women are still choosing to destroy more black fetuses than they are choosing to keep. I don't mention this to speak condemnation to my sistas. I mention this in order to make an observation about how the banishment of black men and the increased availability of funding of black fetus destruction is part of the objective of white supremacist structures to reduce our human capital (and therefore intellectual capital and therefore economic capital).
This is why I am so flabbergasted when black women focus on hair texture as a statement of social mobility. I am irate when black women focus on the degree of brown in each other's skin tone as a status marker within the black social hierarchy. (Note that I intentionally said "within the black social hierarchy".) In the schemata of white supremacist implementation, hair texture and hue measurements are at the furthest edges of the perimeter, if they exist at all in the paradigm of the modern machine of white supremacy.
The question I began with was this:
"How is power defined by black women and how does that definition differ from how power is defined by black men? How does that definition differ from how power is defined by society?"
Most black women tend to define power by social acceptance and validation by black men and other black people. This is why they place such an extreme focus on social dynamics and less focus on strategic relationships. Most black women believe that social acceptance is a key factor in gaining influence. This assumption is only partially true.
Most black men define power in terms of acquiring substitutes and imitations of whatever they perceive those in power have attained. Black men also define power in terms of physical dominance, material gain and sexual identity. White people are aware of all of the ways that black men define power and therefore, they have implemented systems to remove all of the segments that black men cling to for power.
a. They have incarcerated them to turn their desire for sexual identity into a predatory animalistic identity that is necessary for survival.
b. They have erected barriers to capital that foster a crime culture which feeds into the systematic exile of the black man from society.
c. The physical dominance that black men believe is tied to their power is also removed by placing them in cages and removing them from healthy social intercourse that fosters productive human development.
The resulting impact of the proliferation of government-financed cages for the black male population (from the age of 13) is that black women begin to view black men as irrelevant in the progress of the black community and no longer believe that their time and energies can be invested in them.
This belief underscores the manifestation of the success of white power. Oh how wrong we were to assume that subjugation of the black man in order to reduce the black community to anarchy was the ultimate goal! The measure of success of white supremacist structures was not the complete subjugation of the black man!
The measure of success of white power was to produce far-reaching black-complicity in embracing the irrelevancy of the black man within a patriarchal society. The evidence of acquiescence of the black woman in being mentally-seduced by white supremacist ideology is in her full cooperation of perpetuating the irrelevance of the black man and thereby assisting white America in his systematic extinction.
I blow my trumpet today to tell my sistas that unless we adopt a new definition of black power, we will be engulfed by the ambiguity of our inconsistent solidarity.
Thursday, April 24, 2008
BLACK WOMEN AND THE REDEFINITION OF POWER
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18 COMMENTS:
Lisa,
Wow! That's some deep, deep, DEEP strategy you're discussing on so many levels! I'm going to need time to digest all of this and think. As always this was an excellent essay, O Ms. Deeper Than Nietzche, Aquinas & Proust Rolled Into One.
Peace, blessings & solidarity.
"White America has already understood what black women fail to grasp - they can not carry the black race on their backs without becoming broken."
I think many black women have/are coming into this realization thus... the preception that "black men are irrelevant."
I don't think that most black women feel that black men are irrelevant. I think black women are defining and re-defining for ourselves the meaning of power, sometimes in productive ways and sometimes not.
I question statistics - where are the obtained and who is gathering the info. If black women utilize "unplanned/planned parenthood" programs more than others then of course stats would indicate black women are aborting fetuses at a higher rate. I wonder how true this is. Would there be such a push for "pro-life" if it were? (I'm not a conspiracy theorist I promise!-lol).
Lisa, I will take essay to work with me and deconstruct it paragraph by paragraph. This is a really good essay-great observations.
And one more thing...We move in and out of places of priviledge all the time. The white maid your family employed would probably get treated in higher regard in society-at-large than the family that employed her. At least my maid does at times.
Welcome Khadija!
Welcome Hagar's Daughter!
Thanks so much for stopping by! I really need some deep thinkers in this dialogue to add more meat to the stew!
There are so many ways to define power and I certainly don't think I've captured it...but I hope I've provided a starting point for rich dialogue!
Thanks for hearing the sound of the trumpet!
Lisa
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@ Khadija
You always know how to produce a belly-laugh!
One day you'll come to the blog and see an entire dissertation in one post! *LOL*
Okay, okay, I promise THAT will never happen!
Thanks for keeping me in stitches,
Lisa
@ Hagar's Daughter
To answer your question...
I found those stats on the following pro-life website:
www.blackgenocide.org
WARNING!!! This site has color photos of chopped up babies on some of their pages so I didn't want to link to it in my post because I was absolutely nauseated and distraught by those photos. I had to go into prayer after that!
This website obtained their stats from:
The 2004 CDC Abortion Surveillance Report, released 11/23/2007
There is a chart on the CDC website that has abortion stats for the black community from 1973-2003: A.A. Legal Abortions 1973-2003.
This is the news piece from February 27, 2008 about Planned Parenthood and the white donors asking to direct their money to abortions in the black community: LIFE NEWS.COM, 2/28/2008
I hope this is useful info, and thanks so much for asking!
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
Lisa,
I'll continue to ponder this, but here are a few initial, long-winded *smile* [and most likely controversial] reactions. First, a quote from Baltasar Gracian that came to mind after reading this essay:
"Drain Nothing to the Dregs, Neither Good Nor Ill. A sage once reduced all virtue to the golden mean. Push right to the extreme and it becomes wrong; press all the juice from an orange and it becomes bitter. Even in enjoyment never go to extremes. Thought too subtle is dull. If you milk a cow too much you draw blood, not milk."
It occurs to me that Black women are draining a lot of things to the dregs. We're now draining the dregs of failed ideologies & failed strategies.
The mantra is the same: "Black women must continue to prop up Black men. Black women must not acknowlege how many of the men are actually unworthy & irrelevant. Black women must continue to spend good time & energy after bad. Keep [false]hope alive. Any Black woman that questions or refuses any of the above is a tool of White supremacy."
We've reached a point where the continued 'milking' of Black women is drawing blood, not milk. Because blood instead of milk is visibly flowing at this point, even the die-hard Black male protectionists must acknowlege the mass failures of our men. But yet the recommended remedy is the same as before---keep propping Black men up & pushing them onto thrones. Haven't we been pushing this strategy since the 1960s?
Will we continue to advocate this strategy when the number of Black men inside prison is more than the number outside of prison? Will we continue to advocate this strategy when the percentage of female-headed households in the Black community reaches 80%? Or 90%? Or 95%?
I refuse. I refuse. I refuse to support unworthy people of either gender. I give RECIPROCAL support to the [I estimate] 2% of Black men who are doing what they are supposed to do---protecting Black women & children. The rest can continue to exercise their free will to die in the wilderness. I'll have to re-read the Quranic account about Noah. But I don't recall him forcing anyone onto the ark.
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About how abortion intersects with the issues you raised:
False religiosity sets many of these girls & women up to place themselves in a spot where they feel the need to get abortions. Since they believe that only 'sluts' plan to have sex, they choose not to think about birth control or STDs. To them it somehow doesn't count as being 'loose' if a girl/woman is 'caught up in the moment.'
These girls/women consider themselves too holy/saved/whatever to plan for birth control. But they're not 'holy' enough to keep their legs closed before marriage. There's also the female population that considers themselves virgins [and therefore holy/saved/whatever] because they engage in every sexual act EXCEPT vaginal intercourse. They also feel that they don't need to plan their sex lives---and so there's no thought of avoiding STDs. And so HIV runs rampant in the Black community.
All of this is idiotic & childish thinking. I generally prefer that these sorts of people have their tubes tied. In the absence of that, I prefer that they have abortions. Here's why: Demographics plays a large role in shaping a people's destiny. Since poor judgment got them in that position, these are not girls/women who have favorable odds of raising productive Black people. We don't need extra Black folks who are straight-up liabilities among us. We already have far too many.
Let me be clear. Anyone can have one unexpected pregnancy to deal with. Even with planning, stuff can still happen. That's really not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Black girls/women who use abortion as a form of birth control. Who somehow keep finding themselves in a spot to have multiple abortions because of their confused thinking about their own sexuality.
Anyone who has spent any amount of time working with the Black underclass has surely noticed how defective & deficient many of them are. It's taboo to say this out loud, but I don't care anymore. We need to speak the truth if we're going to move forward. From low-IQs to developmental delays, all of which are often marinated in drugs & alcohol, many of the underclass are INCAPABLE of being functional, much less competitive with others. While working in the courts, I've noticed that this subpopulation is getting MORE deficient over the years.
The Black folks who feel that "birth control equals genocide" or that "abortion equals genocide" need to consider the following: Perhaps the real White supremacy plan is to encourage us to have legions of defective people populating the Black nation. People who will never be competitive with the normal White yuppies. Much less competitive with the genetic enhancements for the children of the wealthy that are at most a few decades around the corner.
Think about the movies "Gattaca" & "Idiocracy." Think permanent, genetically-determined Black underclass. It's dangerous to continue the current situation in the Black community. Where most productive & capable Black couples have, at most, 3 children per family. Where the the deficient & defective among us have, at MINIMUM, 4 children per family.
Anyone who's spent time working with the Black underclass has seen this. Black female drug addicts tend to give birth to at least 5 children. Children that are born drug-exposed. Children that have developmental delays. Children that have cognitive deficiencies. Children that have behavior disorders.
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To sum up everything I've said, we can't build or resurrect a viable people with these sorts of demographic trends. We need to rethink a lot of things.
Peace, blessings & solidarity.
Welcome Khadija!
Ahhh... a fellow philosopher has arrived...
Thank you so much for your thoughts.
You have given me so much to think about. I know I will re-read your comments and glean even more.
You cause me to continue to reflect on what I am thinking and WHY I am thinking what I am thinking.
I love that quote you opened with. Now I have another book to add to my shopping cart online! (smile)
You have some assumptions about what black women are being taught that do not align with my own experiences.
They may align with many black women's experiences so I won't discount that as a possibility.
I can only say, I was not being told much of what you are saying black women are being told.
FALSE HOPE
For example, I have never heard ANY black women being told that: “Black women must continue to spend good time & energy after bad. Keep [false]hope alive.”
My father never taught this. I was never around men in the family who advocated that mentality.
Give me a clear picture of it so I can see what you are talking about. Then I can react to it - because I don't see our black women clinging to false hope.
What I see is a lot of hopelessness.
You said:
“…even the die-hard Black male protectionists must acknowledge the mass failures of our men. But yet the recommended remedy is the same as before---keep propping Black men up & pushing them onto thrones.”
I am sure you meant to say "the mass failures of SOME of our black men"...because ALL are not failures...most are not failures...I'm not saying MOST are Ivy-trained high-achievers like Michelle's husband but I am saying that MOST are not failures....
And most white men aren't Ivy-trained high-achievers either...
I don't put all black men in one category as though they are ALL xyz or have ALL been xyz...or ALL will become xyz...
ABOUT ILL-EQUIPPED THRONE HOLDERS
I have never heard this mantra you speak of - this mantra that deficient, dysfunctional, (even dangerous!) black men should be pushed to the throne.
I have never been taught that.
Now, I have seen men holding at the throne who were dysfunctional, deficient and dangerous but I haven't been aligned with women to PLACE HIM there.
In fact, I have strategized behind the scenes on how we could remove a few! {chuckles}
Let's not assume that every scandal that the (white) media "uncovers" that causes the ouster of guys like Kindergarten Kwame was the result of their superb detective skills.
There ARE times when the (white) media is merely a pawn in the black strategy to dethrone the wayward, unrepentant king on the throne.
There is some insider activism going on in some of these "scandals" that show up in the papers. Therefore, I do not believe that ALL black women are taught to think that ANY black man should be pushed to the throne.
If you think they have been, then you have engaged with many more black women than I have.
CHURCH COVER UPS
I have noticed in many black churches that there is a tendency to turn a blind eye to wrong doing (NOT saying that the Catholic church has not seen their share of this mindset, however)! I didn’t realize that women who are turning a blind eye were doing so because they were TAUGHT these mantras that you have laid out.
I just thought that they were being cowardice or that they were blinded by idolatry.
WOW. This helps me to redirect my strategies with them.
All this time I thought they knew what SHOULD be done and chose NOT to do it.
You see, it’s one thing to address wrong teaching, wrong indoctrination, wrong thinking. It’s another to push people to do what they know is right.
Now, you are sharing that they were TAUGHT this. Hmmmm.
UNMERITED BLACK COHESION/FALSE UNITY
You said:
“I refuse to support unworthy people of either gender.”
I have not heard any forward-thinking black woman (activists or non-activist) say that black women must “support unworthy people of either gender.”
Some white people say "I won't support affirmative action because black people who aren't qualified should not have jobs over people who are!" and I am thinking: "and who SAID that is what affirmative action IS?"
I ask the same question with you.
Who told you that"black women must support unworthy people"? Where did that message come to you from? If I know where it comes from then I can better address the black women who have believed that.
RATES OF BLACK ABORTIONS
You mentioned the rate of abortions of black women, (that is approximately 1,450 per day) but there are no statistics I have seen that would suggest what you are stating - that “False religiosity sets many of these girls & women up to place themselves in a spot where they feel the need to get abortions.”
I don’t agree with this, simply because I don’t have any documentation to convince me that 1,450 fetuses are destroyed daily due to religious indoctrination.
Show me the documentation and I’ll surely consider it that as the angle we must examine closely.
In the black churches that I have been in, there are more women with children born out of wedlock than they are women with children born after marriage.
I know that the black church has not addressed sexuality. (But not just black churches!)
The women ministers are expected to be celibate.
The men in ministry are not expected to be celibate.
If a woman had multiple children by different fathers and was not married and ATTEMPTED to become a minister in some of these churches...don't let me go there.
My pastor told me: "You're a good girl." Don't tell me that moral assessments aren't made by the men about the women...but they don't seem to make the moral assessments about each other. I can't even discuss this or I'll get angry so let me just stop the tape right here on that point. (smile)
BLACK GENOCIDE: REAL OR IMAGINED?
I do not think it is a mere coincidence that 78% of all abortion clinics are placed in the black community and that Planned Parenthood receives hundreds of millions EVERY year in tax money for abortions. Yes, I do believe in systematic genocide. The government has hundreds of millions for these abortion clinics to be placed in the black communities but I keep driving through neighborhoods with boarded up stores and buildings. Yes, I do believe in systematic genocide.
I am not riding this “Blame The White Man” bus however.
Let’s keep discussing these issues. We are not drawing blood. We are strategizing for the future of our people.
Some discussions we keep having over and over and over – and it’s because we still do not have a solution. We MUST continue to seek solutions!
We need to keep thinking and we need to keep examining and we need to keep hashing it all out constructively and intelligently….we’ll get to a solution. I know it.
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
Lisa,
A reply while I'm off gathering some examples of what I'm talking about:
1-In my comment above, I've translated what I'll call 'the mantra' into its rawest form. People rarely come out & directly say 'support unworthy Black men.' It's couched in other terms: "Help a brother out." "Don't let 'them' tear down our Black men." These sorts of statements are coupled with angry rejection of any questions being asked of exactly why this person deserves support.
Think of the things many Black women say to each other while supporting the likes of Kindergarten Kwame & Marion Barry. Think of statements made [and cheered] in the video of Kwame's politician mommy's press conference in support of her wayward son.
Furthermore, how else did Kwame & Marion Barry get into office but for the support of Black women voters & staffers.
2-I'm not talking about educational & occupational attainments when I mention the mass failures of Black men. I mean their generalized failure to function as MEN. The failure to be providers or protectors for Black women & children. I'm not saying "all" Black men are failing. That's a straw man argument. I'm saying that the Black community would not be the shambles that it is if the majority of Black men were functioning as men.
Black men in our fathers' generation did not tolerate the open preying on Black women & children that goes on today. A known pedophile like R.Kelly would be found face down in an alley somewhere. Not singing in public. Not invited to sing at church-sponsored kindergarten graduation. [As Rev. Meeks did, if I remember correctly.]
3-The part about false religiosity & abortion is drawn from what I've gleaned talking to the Black women I've seen & represented in the court system. As you know, I have a big mouth. And I'm not 'skeered' to ask people questions about their understanding of life. Let me describe some of the patterns I and other coworkers have observed. I apologize in advance to anyone that I inadvertently offend, but this is what I've seen rotating through my large metropolitan area's courtrooms:
4-Among the Black criminal & child welfare defendants, and child support litigants, the VAST majority of them seem to come from what I've heard called 'sanctified,' 'holy roller' churches. I'm speaking of those who claim any religious affiliation at all. Specifically, the Church of God in Christ is well-represented among the criminal defendant/out-of-wedlock child support litigant population.
This is a concern for several coworkers who have noticed similar patterns. One coworker is a COGIC member in her early 50s. Her grandfather founded one of the area's largest & oldest COGIC churches in the area. She's horrified at all the "Let's pray for Sister So and So's son, who was just sentenced to 80 years!" appeals at her grandfather's church. It wasn't like this when she was growing up. She can't quite pinpoint when the congregation turned into a different sort of population. This is a source of great concern to her.
My Black co-workers & I've seen VERY FEW Black Catholics, Lutherans, or Episcopalians over the years. Over the years, I've listened to many clients engage in a lot of talk about 'anointing,' 'spirits,' etc. This is how the conversation drifts to how it came to be that they are involved in whatever it is that has put them in court. And I take the opportunity to ask about their understandings of several issues, including birth control.
I think there are class issues involved in the demographics of various Black Christian denominations. But there are probably other issues involved in these patterns as well. I find all of this fascinating AND mind-boggling.
5-There is a large population of what I call 'jailhouse' Muslims. The jailhouse Muslims typically have better Arabic pronunciation of religious expressions than me. Clients have explained to me that they accepted Islam in prison because they didn't have gang affiliations to protect them; and the prison Muslims will fight to defend each other from assault [similar to the protection offered by prison gang membership]. Once released, they seem to get back to their previous pursuits.
6-There is a small, but noticable, subsection of Negro Muslims among the out of wedlock child support litigants. These are the foolish, usually hijab-wearing women who call themelves involved in plural marriages. Of course, they are on welfare & their "husbands" dutifully collect the proceeds from their public aid checks.
Peace, blessings & solidarity.
I agree with most of Khadija's comments. Because something is not personally experienced doesn't mean that it is not happening.
Many things are not "openly" taught in words, but are taught in the behaviors that are modeled.
In the roles I serve as therapist/ social worker/ chaplain & preacher I encounter women and men who are failing as thinking, functioning, & contributing citizens of their communities, country, and civilization. And God forbid what I encountered as a middle school teacher in the inner city - the parents were failing their children. Here on the West Coast in the largest child protection agency of its kind in the world, the stats show that black & brown children are being abused and/or neglected at incredibly rates. Poverty is no excuse to not know where your children are - and that's just for starters.
I'm also doing so research of my own. Black men are not irrelevant, but they need to be held accountable for what they are doing and what they are failing to do. Black women need to be held accountable as well. It's sad that we as black women (of course not all) do not hold ourselves in high regard, that we can not imagine or articulate the devine as feminine, and that we still seek approval of the majority culture or from men.
We did we as black folks assimilate to a culture that values material possessions more than we value our lives. How can we glorify bling and violence because "the beat is good?"
Now a parent may not be able to afford to move from the ghetto, but,I'll repeat, a parent sure as hell can supervise their children and know where their children are.
I cannot tell you how many times I have gone to a home to investigate allegations of abuse/neglect and find toddlers playing outdoors unsupervised and young children gone and their parent (usually the mother) not having a clue where the child is.
I have had ENOUGH.
I'll get back with info on religiosty and attitudes toward sexual activity. I have strong opinions about this subject too as well as mental health services and the black church. Lisa you've gotten me on a roll and I have to work tonight.
Welcome Khadija!
Welcome Hagar's Daughter!
Thanks so much for commenting!
I appreciate the opportunity you have given me to hear other perspectives because I do listen intently when others share their experiences in black communities.
When I minister "in the 'hood", I see a lot of what you are describing. I am still trying to think through what is required to reverse the downward spiral so many black people in disenfranchised communities are experiencing.
I am a minister who prefers to do God's work outside of the church walls. This is not something that is widely encouraged among the clergy ranks. The "non-denominational denomination" leader would love for me to ask if I can stay inside the church walls to teach and preach to crowds of converts.
Khadija, you mentioned that people were telling you about what they were taught in their so-called churches. There is so much misteaching occurring that I am floored and saddened by it. The reason I am assigned to edit the books of pastors before they go to the publisher is because I have to examine the doctrine! I have read some teachings that were so corrupt, I felt horror in my spirit.
I don't just slash paragraphs from one chapter to the next. I have to go and explain why the doctrine is corrupt. After I do my doctrinal examination, another group of pastors goes over my notes.
Even with THIS process, books are still floating out with wrong teaching. Khadija I have no doubt that many are being mistaught - but is that the reason why sexual promiscuity is rampant? I am not ready to put the blame on the church.
Hagar's Daughter, I can't wait to hear your observations on sexuality and the church.
I have been in communities where a great deal of moral decline and human depravity is evident. I know that there are many factors that have impacted the astonishing moral decline. I do understand what you are speaking of - I think both of you have seen it from a different angle than I have.
This is why I am so grateful for this important exchange that we are having.
I look forward to continuing this conversation and I'll check back for more of your wisdom this evening!
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
Lisa,
I'm not saying that Black churches are directly teaching the false religiosity that I hear from the client population. I'm saying that whatever is being taught in these 'sanctified' type churches that the clients prefer is NOT counter-acting their confused thinking [about sex or anything else].
My coworkers and I suspect that part of the problem is the spread of 'prosperity ministries' in the Black community. Let me describe the 2nd coworker that I've been discussing this with:
Coworker #2 is in her early 40s, is originally from a small Black town outside of Macon, Georgia---I can't quite imitate her Southern accent *Smile*. Like Coworker #1, she grew up in the COGIC. Her father is a high-ranking official in the South, and her childhood was filled with attending tent-revivals. She joined the Episcopal church as an adult.
Coworker #2 has noticed that there are a lot of West Indians & a sprinkling of Africans in her church. They seem to have 'inherited' participation in this denomination from 'back home.' Coworker No. 2's church is one of the area's oldest Black Episcopal churches. It's located in the middle of what was the city's Black belt when Blacks of all classes were segregated together. The church's neighborhood is now mainly composed of poor African-Americans.
Coworker No. 2's church members are very zealous & sincere in their efforts to assist & do outreach among the local poor residents. But the locals are not responding. More blunt talk from me: I think they're not responding based on their aversion to (1) serious church doctrine & (2) the emotional styles of these non-'sanctified' churches. As you know, serious doctrine doesn't leave people wiggle-room to act in rebellion while simultaneously claiming to be faithful Christians.
One concern the coworkers have expressed with storefront-type churches is the lack of accountability regarding doctrine. For all anybody knows, they could be preaching anything in these places. In my UNINFORMED opinion, the lack of firm doctrine in a lot of majority Black denominations has helped the spread of 'prosperity ministries.' My coworkers & I feel that these prosperity ministries have deeply damaged Black spirituality.
The other factor is that the client population is NOT attracted to the emotional climate in the non-'sanctified' denominations. To be candid: the Catholic, Lutheran, Episcopal churches are perceived as 'too' cerebral by this population. Another attorney coworker who attends a storefront-type church explained to me point blank that "Black people want to be entertained in church."
The client population can tolerate Islam [which is also 'lacking' in entertainment value] because it offers physical perks---physical protection while one is in prison, & extra wives when one is out of prison. I'm speaking of 'orthodox' Islam regarding multiple wives. The Nation of Islam won't tolerate multiple wives. Much less pimping these so-called wives for their public aid checks.
It's an enduring source of shame to me that Ike Turner wannabes are much less welcome in the Nation of Islam than in orthodox mosques. It's a disgrace that Black women's interests are safer in the hands of the NOI than in Sunni mosques. I have to stop the tape running---I could go on endlessly about the spiritual crimes of certain Negro Muslims...
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Hagar's Daughter,
I'm looking forward to your further comments!
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Lisa & Hagar's Daughter: Thank you both for your participation & affording me another opportunity to discuss & think through some of these issues.
Peace, blessings & solidarity.
Lisa & Khadija,
This is such a good and compelling conversation. I am going to return in moment with comments on sexuality and the black church.
Lisa: It's just not people who live in "the hood" it's those with "hood mentality where the hood lives in them."
Khadija: I chuckle at your description of your coworker - early 40s, raised COGIC, now episcopalian - sounds like me except I'm preacher's grandkid and a preacher's kid (both parents)from New Orleans.
I am writing this from work and when I get a break from the madness that is child abuse I'll return with my thoughts on sexuality and the black church.
Unless the black church develops and articulates a theology of sexual ethics then the black church may "be engulfed by the ambiguity of its inconsistency[ies]."
Please keep in mind that this is a generalization and probably nothing you haven't heard before.
The black church has been either otherworldly and/or entrenched in the fight for social justice i.e. fight against racism. There has not been a theology of sexual ethics, and if so then that theology echoes white evangelical churches. To articulate a theology of sexual ethics is probably not "spiritual" for our otherworldly thinking sisters and brothers who concentrate on personal salvation and doing enough to get in heaven. For our sisters and brothers who push for social justice or concern themselves with social life issues then the struggle for equality is the focus.
For those who are so heavenly-minded that they cannot formulate a theology of any kind and if they do then they don't know that they actually have a theology because everything is experiential. So we end up with theologies that stop at: God is good all the time and all the time God is good or just take it to the Lord in prayer. While others are memorizing and reciting doctrinal statements and have no idea what they mean. While I'm at it can these newly called preachers go somewhere for formal education, even if it's not seminary, but please learn to get the story straight before you get the story out - as my homelics prof would say. Also, Jesus is a "nonsexual being" born of a "nonsexual being" who remained virginal her entire life. Nothing is really mentioned of the Disciples' wives or children except Peter's mother-in-law. When sex is mentioned in the Bible it's usually about adultery, fornication, or rape/incest. No wonder the topic of sex is taboo.
Many Christians believe in dualism of body and spirit where the body is bad and spirit is good/holy, which frames the concepualization of sexuality and sex. We are not thought of as sexual beings and sex is not something to enjoy, but to procreate.
I think parents and clergy underestimate the number of teens and single adults who are sexually active. There is no honest talk about sex, that is adults talking about sex and adults talking to teens about sex. So when the message of HIV/AIDS as God's punishment and good girls don't have sex, it's not surprising that teens are having sex while being ill-prepared to do so. The result being STDs and unexpected pregnancies. Also, womanhood is still defined, in many circles, as the ability to have children (period). There is no discussion about having an actual plan for life.
As has been the case since forever, teens get their messages about sex from friends, media, and popular culture. There is little to no dialogue between the church and culture. In fact there are far too many clergy who are preaching prosperty gospel. Teens value their possessions more than they valaue themselves. I talked with a teen girl about whether she would give or loan her iPod to her boyfriend and she said no because her mother would get angry, but seemed shocked when I asked if she valued that iPod more than her body.
For many churches the subject of sex and sexuality is not "spiritual" because of it is thought to be practical in nature. It's in the same vein as talking about mental health in the church community.
(I have to get back to work, I'll finish in part 2.)
Here is part 2 (I don't remember where I left off and I'll try to be brief.)
The black church and black clergy cannot utilize the talent of gay & lesbian persons, for example as musicians(sorry if this is a stereotype)and preach sermons that demonize homosexuality. In the black community-at-large I think gay male=nonthreatening, unmanly, and weakness while gay female=dominance, threatening, and unwomanly while both=unnatural, sinful. There we go with this simplistic theologizing, which is not working. The black church needs to go back to its tradition of seeking right relationship with God, each other, and society-at-large. Homophobia in the black church is a white theological perspective that has been adopted by the black church. I know there are those who will argue against this strongly. But the black church cannot be a progressive instituition that seeks justice for the oppressed and marginalized while it continues to oppress and marginalize. It cannot do this and remain effective and relevant.
The way we language sexuality is very important. We must speak in terms that are relevant and not esoteric - "It's better to marry than burn." "Sex outside of marriage is a sin, the Bible says it and that settles it." We need to find language that is honest and affirming of us as sexual beings.
More churches should offer programs and ministries that address the practical nature of sexuality by having a well thought out sexuality curricula that is open to the entire community. The need for sermons that are affirming is crucial while eliminating these sermons that portray women in a negative light while not holding men accountable for their behavior as well. Women and men should walk out on a sermon that is not edifying.(I don't mean sermons that you just disagree with, I'm talking sermons that are put downs.) Sex scandals in the pulpit - unacceptable. The black church of course does not hold the exclusive on this.
Sex and sexuality must be connected to spirituality, that which is greater than we are, not fundamentalist dogma. Also, the church has to be viewed as an extension of the family unit, a family unit that is responsible for the development of all its members.
I'll repeat, the black church must get back to seeking right relationships.
See Kelly Brown Douglass' Sexuality and the Black Church: A Womanist Perspective. Also, there is I think The Coalition of Black Churches (?) that has sexuality curricula and programs designed from a practical theological perspective.
Welcome Hagar’s Daughter!
There is so much that you said that I agree with!
AMEN and AMEN.
I agree with you that there is a broad acceptance of any standard of preparation for ministry.
There is no mandatory academic training in our ranks. The church leader decides the requirements for who enters our ranks. When formal academic training is insisted upon, those who refuse to study God’s word want to claim that we are reinforcing classism in our ranks so that no one outside of the black middle class can enter. That is hardly the point. They want to point to the heretics who have been academically-trained. That is hardly the point. We have too many in our ranks who don’t know the Bible! And they are now on television throughout the world! I don't own a television but anytime I am asked to click into a show on
"TBN"....well.... never mind.
I can’t believe the corrupt doctrine that the masses are oblivious to and that our colleagues do not confront.
I have been stunned by the teachings in books that pastors wrote! When I hand in their book to the Bishop (who the regional bishops report to) and practically every paragraph is slashed with comments and questions, they want to cop an attitude. Why? Why is it acceptable in our ranks to be Biblically illiterate? Where is the outrage?
I agree with what you said about the dialogue that must take place within the church about sexuality.
I do not think that we (those in the black church) have gleaned homophobia from white people. If we (black folks) are bigoted, we are because we believe we are justified in being bigots. I will add that we are very wrong in that thinking.
We didn’t learn bigotry from white people (and I am not saying that you have made that assertion however.) The black church is homophobic for so many reasons. Black men (perhaps all men) don't know how to define themselves sexually. Black women receive so many convoluted messages about who they are sexually that they can't even filter it all.
Keep sharing! I love this dialogue. I have needed this type of exchange for a long, long time.
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
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Welcome Khadija!
LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY IN CHURCHES
Your observations are correct about the lack of accountability and it exists on many levels. There is a lack of fiscal accountability, and a lack of doctrinal alignment. The way that ministers are hired is often a popularity contest based on the most superficial criteria.
Storefront churches may be suspected of having a very loose structure but some of them are actually well-managed. In established organizations a lack of accountability can still exist because the leader (who all of the regional bishops report to) is treated like the Pope.
There is a board of trustees for the entire global ministry but when the members of are hand-picked by the big man, then it is clear that they work for him and not vice versa. I am not criticizing but I am just being honest about HOW lack of accountability can exist in the large, established denominations.
ENTERTAINMENT OVER SUBSTANCE
I share your observation that church (if we can even use that term) is becoming a place of entertainment and heretical teaching. There are still those who want to grow spiritually and are very earnest in studying the Bible, however. There are still serious Christians who truly want the favor of God.
You mentioned the element of emotionalism in the church setting and it is actually used as a tool to divert the attention away from the lack of the presence of God. It is quite common for the masses to think that an emotional atmosphere is a God-focused atmosphere. Some preachers feed into that because it's all that they have seen in their lives. They think this is how we 'do church'.
PROSPERITY DOCTRINE AND OTHER HERESY
You also mentioned the prosperity doctrine but I don’t think it is the cause of the doctrinal dissolution within the church that is evident now. The decline was occurring before the prosperity doctrine became prevalent.
It is rare for clergy to use the term “heretic” to describe a fellow colleague because that is just such a damning label to place on anyone. Instead, we say things such as, “His theology is different than my theology” or “I have some concerns about her theology sometimes”. The problem with not being honest about who the heretics are among us is that they continue to function and have flourishing ministries and huge book deals. I believe that my colleagues and I must begin to be more confrontational about addressing incorrect doctrine and publicly speaking about the prevalence of heresy. People are afraid – once you label a colleague a heretic, there is no turning back. All of the colleague’s friends in ministry will turn against you. They may even start launching public attacks from their pulpits against you. I think that my colleagues often choose to use nebulous language such as “that’s a different theology”.
There is also a widespread belief among the church masses that we (preachers) are the special and elite Christians. Biblical illiteracy is the order of the day in so many churches. No one has read enough scripture in order to be able to challenge what is being taught to them so they take everything that is being spoon-fed to them.
EVANGELISM IN COMMUNITIES
As for your coworker whose church is eager about outreach and not getting the response that they hoped for - I have developed training workshops for these groups. I have always had a desire to focus on training entire congregations to do this. I have started a ministry organization to do congregation-wide training all over the country. It’s still in its infancy.
I believe in the concept of “the church without walls” and that we must carry Jesus into the world. This is not what the black clergy has been told their role is. This is why they ALL look at me strangely. It is not supposed to be something WE do. We are supposed to be in our robes inside the walls. We are supposed to leave THAT to the “others”. We are considered about doing what looks prestigious.
The head of the denomination wants me to be in the “traditional” role of a cleric. He tries to hard for me to “traditional”, for me to want to be called ‘reverend’, for me to want to stay in the confines of the walls of the church, for me to desire to spend my life teaching and preaching to converts.
I ask my colleagues a lot, “when is the last time you went to a place where you were assured you would be the only convert and you carried the Gospel of Jesus to them?” I receive silence and puzzled looks.
RECEPTIVITY OF THE MASSES FOR CORRECT DOCTRINE
You mentioned that people are not as eager to receive correct doctrine. I think that is probably true but I think we have to show them how harmful corrupt doctrine is. When we were children and we had to take medicine, our moms told us that it was going to taste nasty but it was necessary for us to get well. So we crunched our faces and took the spoon and let it go through our system.
I believe that my colleagues and I must begin to tell the masses about the tremendous harm that corrupt teaching has brought to the Church and to their spiritual health. We have to address Biblical illiteracy.
There are so many reasons why the response from those they are trying to reach is not what they would like. I took a group from the church to train them one Saturday morning. They were all afraid of rejection. I began showing them how to be bold with God’s word in a way that is completely loving. They were floored when total strangers started forming a LINE on the sidewalk waiting for their turn to talk to me one-to-one. I told them “this happened like this TODAY but it doesn’t always happen like this!” They think that only ministers will have that reaction from strangers - but it’s not true.
I want more of my colleagues to start training the church members to be effective outside of the walls. Many aren’t interested because they don’t know how to reach the groups that are referred to as “the unchurched”.
I keep reminding them that God converts the unconverted. They have to know that you care before they care what you know about God. I have a message on my emails to the church members, “Preach the Gospel at all times, and if necessary, USE WORDS.”
SOLUTIONS
How do we dismantle the condition of the black women who have been taught those mantras?
How do we help them understand the new path that black women are seeking to talk without having them “filter” everything that is brought to them through the lens of their misteaching?
Remember the example I gave with the white people stating WHY they won’t support affirmative action and my response of “well WHO said that is what affirmative action is?”
I questioned you, “well WHO said that we’re talking about any caliber of man being at the throne? Who said that?”
“Well WHO said that dysfunctional, dangerous, detrimental black leaders should be supported? Who said that?”
When did that solution get placed on the table? I’m looking at my own words – don’t see that anywhere. Black women will take the discussion where it’s not headed – but it is because of their own filter of what they THINK I meant.
We have to make that clear when we see it.
Thanks so much for this rich dialogue!
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
Lisa & Hagar's Daughter:
{Waves excitedly} This is such a refreshing, invigorating conversation! Gee...I know I'm talking to really, really smart people when they turn some of my mumbled ramblings into such elegant points of discussion. I'm learning a lot from you ladies.
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Lisa: The most concise example of 'the mantra' is the You Tube video entitled "Kwame Kilpatrick's Mom Talkin About 'Yall'z Boy." I tried, but failed, to find a transcript of her indignant defense of Kindergarten Kwame.
If you see it, you'll see that she hits all the emotional high notes that many Black women parrot whenever a corrupt Black male throne-holder is in trouble [usually of his own making]. Look for the enraged sneer on Congresswoman Cheeks-Kilpatrick's face as she shrieks:
1- "Don't let THEM talk about yall's boy!" Focus on the external White enemy. Deflect attention from how the corrupt king's actions actually help our external enemies. Insinuate that anyone who questions the wisdom of supporting the corrupt Black king is actually collaborating with "THEM"---the external White enemy.
2-"Too many people died for [us]!" Invoke the memory of dead civil rights martyrs to justify rallying around the corrupt king.
3-"We're here to fight!" Seek to portray supporting a corrupt leader as somehow being strong, and not weak. Meld the idea of fighting back against White folks with rallying around the corrupt king.
The only part of the typical mantra that I didn't hear her express in this clip was the "White folks have been doing this too & getting away with it. Why should he be punished when White men aren't?"
This is the standard reaction that I hear from other Black women whenever anyone [usually me] questions the wisdom of supporting/defending/ralllying around/propping up Black Male Wannabe and/or Corrupt Leader #487.
Not only is this mantra the typical reaction in these situations, but it's the background assumption that people go into these conversations with. Similar to the way that many Black folks come to conversations already assuming that Black criminal defendants are being mistreated by the system. Even before finding out the details of any particular case. I don't know who originally said any of these things---it's like the air---it's always been there in the background.
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Hagar's Daughter: I love the quote from your professor about "getting the story straight before getting the story out." Everybody needs to take that idea to heart.
I also smiled in recognition when you described people "memorizing and reciting doctrinal statements and have no idea what they mean." I see this a lot from jailhouse Muslims & others that want to verbally beat me down with their superior knowledge of Arabic religious terminology & arcane quotes from medieval Muslim scholars.
I stopped one prisoner from lecturing me about why I don't know some of these Arabic terms by pointing out that his knowledge of these terms did nothing to prevent him from becoming a recidivist. I also slapped back with a few quotes from the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). One about how we should all "seek refuge from from knowledge that does not benefit." Another about the divine punishment for seeking knowledge that you have no intention of acting on. [In other words, you want religious knowledge just to show off, or for material gain.]
All of the above was very petty of me. But it sho-nuff felt good! *Crooked smile*
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Lisa & Hagar's Daughter:
I agree with Hagar's Daughter that the Black church & mosque needs to develop & articulate a theology of sexual ethics. As well as a theology of various other practical life ethics. I will withdraw from that part of the discussion, and leave that to you two religious professionals. I'm a lay person who doesn't even have a sufficient vocabulary of Arabic 'code words'! LOL!
Lisa, I'll have to ponder your question of how do we speak in such a way that the message can't be distorted by the filters that have already been put in place.
Thank you both so much for sharing your insights!
Peace, blessings & solidarity.
Hi Lisa,
I finally have more time, but alas, I can't even think of what to say. You are truly deep as Khadija says!!!!
I think part of the problem is that we are steadily being fed lies. This keeps anyone from thinking healthily and making good decisions.
re: planned parenthood. From what I learned these institutions were originally created by a white supremist.
you said: "In the schemata of white supremacist implementation, hair texture and hue measurements are at the furthest edges of the perimeter, if they exist at all in the paradigm of the modern machine of white supremacy.
So true! that is, until they find a way to use it to our (even worse) detriment.
What defines power to BW--I surely hope that the answer is not in relation to whatever "whites" think.
@Lisa
No I do not blame white folks for blacks' biases or bigortry we have to take responsibility for that. My critique is that the conservatism in the black church seems to be more and more a "mimic" of white evangelical conservatism. The black church's progressiveness on social justice i.e. race issues,etc will become engulfed in its conservatism if the black church continues in its promulgation of heterosexism and sexism.
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Being able to minister outside the walls of the church is where I'm called and that's one of my big questions of ordination in the Episcopal Church (EPUSA); I don't know if I'm ready for the bishop to give me my assignment. I know where God has assigned me. Lisa, I understand.
@Khadija
The Prophet(PBUH) dropped deep wisdom in those two statements alone to last us a life time. All of us need to adhere to his wise words. I'm adding The Qur'an to my spring & summer reading list; I haven't read it since I finished my class on Islam at seminary. I have the Islamic Call to Prayer on my iPod and it is part of my meditation practice.
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I am enriched and blessed by this conversation.
Welcome Miriam!
How nice of you to stop by!
We ARE fed lies but we don't realize that they are lies. This is our challenge as bloggers and as writers and as change agents within our communities - we have to blow the trumpet about these lies! Then, we must help other black women to SEE the falsehood that they have accepted as normalcy.
Thanks so much for your input!
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
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Welcome Hagar's Daughter!
Thank you so much for clarifying your point. (I misunderstood.)
You said:
My critique is that the conservatism in the black church seems to be more and more a "mimic" of white evangelical conservatism.
I think that the black church PRETENDS to operate with conservatism - when it's actually hypocrisy in numerous disguises.
I am in an organization that is TOTALLY dominated by the men in power. The men control everything - ordination criteria, recruitment of ministers, placement of ministers in churches, pay scales, informal sponsorship mechanisms. They control everything. A mutiny from the ranks of the women is just not EVER ever happening.
I am always walking on a tightrope over the cesspool of overt and covert sexism. If I fall off the rope, I'll be in the quagmire.
I'll pray for you about your assignment from the Bishop. I know how much passion you feel about walking in your Call.
I am a soldier in the trenches and my ministry happens in the trenches! Somehow, some way, I must show my Bishop that. He knows it's just not in me to EVER be completely status quo...but he'd like for me to meet him half-way so that I won't have to be dragged kicking and screaming. (smiles)
Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!
Lisa
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